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Give me a second I can post pictures, just to show that individual can change engine and transmission to sport plus correct?
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What do you mean by “what is actually happening”? I can tell you I always run the car in first screenshot as that feels the best for daily driving. If you put the transmission in sport plus you will definitely be faster as it revs high, but for daily driving it is too jerky at low speeds. The downshifting is nice while transmission is in sport plus though, very nice.
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02-06-2023, 09:29 PM | #26 |
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Good luck finding it. Apparently the words and experiences of a bunch of seasoned G20 owners is not enough to prove to you that it's true, even when basically all of them are telling you the exact same thing. We don't have some secret club where we get our stories straight before divulging information on a thread in the G20 forums of Bimmerpost. This is how the car reacts. We don't need a BMW tech doc to tell you how our cars perform.
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No need to get your panties in a wad. That’s not what I said. When BMW introduced Sport Plus on the F30 they published specific information about what Sport Plus did. They’ve never done that with the G20. Obviously, they made significant changes to what Sport Plus does and they’ve never provided a single word about or description of exactly what those changes were. It would be nice and interesting to read their own information about the changes they made. The only way anyone even knew anything had changed was when G20 owners started reporting what they were experiencing in the seat of their pants. Believe me. There were (and probably still are) lots of F30 owners who were (and are) convinced Sport Plus does more on the F30 than the information BMW has published says it does.
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Yup, Sport and Sport+ have noticeable changes to drivetrain and trans in our 2 G20s and our G01 X3. I mean, the pictures I posted from my M340i clearly show that both options have 3 selectable settings, so not sure why this is even up for debate.
I did have an Fxx 4-Sries Gran Coupe as a loaner months ago and did notice how Sport+ on that was nowhere near as aggressive as it in in the Gxx cars, so I get why a change in Sport+ in the new generation of vehicles is a surprise for those who don't use one on a daily basis.
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f series used the following settings for each
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1526609 I haven’t seen a table like the one attached above. Probably very similar? |
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Read through this thread and thank you for the info.
Went into the settings for Sport Individual and selected: Steering Sport Engine Sport Plus Transmission Sport It seems to make the car a little more fun to drive and avoid the really aggressive transmission shifts that Sport Plus has. Those were the options available (didn’t see dampening for example) but just wanted to make sure I’m not off thte mark on this since I’m still learning all the ins and outs of the M340i. |
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This is how I have come to understand my 2021 M340i G20’s Modes.
Transmission: Eco Map: The transmission decouples under deceleration, coasting, and stops. It also shifts and runs as low as 800 rpm under light acceleration. Comfort Map: The transmission only decouples at stops. Shifts are about the same as in Eco mode. Sport Map: There is no transmission decoupling. Shifts under light throttle and braking occur around 2000 rpm. With WOT to redline, hard braking shifts between 3000 and 4000 rpm. Sport+ Map: Shifts are between 2000 and 3000 rpm under light acceleration and braking. With WOT to redline, hard braking shifts are around 3000 and 5000 rpm. Also, the shift points between Comfort, Sport, and Sport+ get tighter, making shifts more snappy and responsive. Engine: Eco Mode: Very low throttle response. The engine will decouple with the transmission and shut down during coasting, light braking, and at stops or even coasting to a stop. Comfort Mode: Better throttle response. The engine shuts down only at stops. Sport Mode: No engine shutdown and even better throttle response. Sport+ Mode: Best throttle response. Also, the torque curve goes from linear to more and more flat as you move from Eco to Sport+. Therefore, the air to fuel map must change too. This was noticed during personal testing and while watching the sport display under each of the maps. |
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Thanks for the detailed info. This is what i felt was the best setup on my test drive of an M340i with the M Sport suspension last week.I also test drove a car with the adaptive m suspension.When comparing them i much preferred the handling and road feel of the car with the M Sport suspension.The suspension just felt firmer and more dialed in then the adaptive m suspension in the sport setting. |
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I still have the E90 M3 and also an M2C, so I'll have direct back-to-back comparisons to those two once the M340i gets here. Fingers crossed that it meets pretty high expectations. I do wish the M340i had programmable "M" buttons like on the M2C, but I assume there is some easy way to save a setup...my wife nor I have really dealt with Idrive 8 much other than a short test drive.
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This is exactly what I see on my 2023 M340i. The only thing I will add is that Sport+ is nearly unusable on the street in normal driving as the shift points are too high. I've played around with it on some back roads and it is fun but would be a nightmare for daily driving.
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Think it also changes the TC a bit. I normally drive in sport individual with DTC on which for me is basically all sport plus besides transmission bc I find it keeps you in way too low of a gear.
Well I was trying sport plus with DTC, took a turn and nailed it and I got way looser than I normally would and the conditions were fine. |
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on the 2020 M340, sport plus gives you more bangs/pops out the exhaust.
Source - Ive owned the car for 4 years and have done all 37k miles. About 99% of the time in sports+ with DSC off.
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You should give an update in this thread when you take delivery of your car.Since you have an M2C with the passive suspension it would be interesting to get your take on the handling of the car with the adaptive suspension. I'm very used to the firm suspension in my original M2 and my wife's 2018 540i with the m sport suspension.Its one of the reasons i prefer the M340i with the m sport suspension. Did you consider waiting for the changes coming to the MY25 model year?That's what i am doing. |
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If your coming directly from those two cars the steering will take some getting used to though. Firstly the steering wheel is stupidly thick and really irritating to hold compared to the M2C wheel for example. The rack itself is nicely quick and it makes the car feel eager to turn in, but its not linear which makes it feel somewhat unintuitive to make small corrections mid corner. Like anything though you get used to it, but it always feels a touch artificial. When I jump in my GT4 with its beautifully thin steering wheel and razor sharp linear rack it always feels more apparent when returning to the m340i. |
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