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      06-28-2016, 02:55 PM   #155
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Although I can't fully tell and can't wait to see what it may look like. Due to the overall shape I feel this will be another cookie-cutter design. I don't like Nissan's or Lexus's current styling but at least they're taking risks. It's time for some game changing design.
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Rumored details and technologies for the G20 include:

* Longer wheelbase
* Wider track
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F30 3-Series = 5-Series wannabe

G20 3-Series = 7-Series wannabe
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The M340i designation appears to follow the success of the M235i. However, there is another trend here. With tightening efficiency rules the number of more powerful cars built is limited by forcing buyers to take a complete performance package at a higher price. No more mushbuckets with souped up motors.
What about the Focus RS? There are a lot of little less expensive cars out there with a lower price.

My car with pretty much all the M Parts stickered at 66k.. Not what I paid for it, but the cars on the performance end are never inexpensive.
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Shall we take bets on whether or not this thing will have rear incandescents?
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There are a lot of little less expensive cars out there with a lower price.
On the flip side, there are a lot of more expensive cars out there with a higher price.
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Looking good so far. As much as a love my F30, I will not miss the high hoodline.
About to order my "M" & that bubble hood really bugs me... You are definitely not alone bro.
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BMW has lots to do against the A4 and C-Class - most of it has to do with the aesthetics both exterior and interior, with emphasis on interior.
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BMW has lots to do against the A4 and C-Class - most of it has to do with the aesthetics both exterior and interior, with emphasis on interior.
The W205 C-class definitely stepped up the game in terms of interior and exterior design. Don't know if I can say the same about the B9 A4. Exterior is evolutionary and arguably less aggressive looking than the B8 A4/S4. I'm not a fan of the strip of vents/faux-vents going across the whole dash.

The B9's MIB2 system with the Virtual Cockpit, however, seems a class above. Looks like the G20 may have something similar from the spy pics. Or it could just be the same 6WB cluster that has trickled down, in which case would be a bit of a disappointment.

It sounds like the G20 might be approaching the size of the E60. BMW definitely needs something below the 3 then, hopefully with RWD.
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So no more 320ied?
For more power we need to jump to 2.0cc B46 320i engine from 3.18i 1.5 136hp.There isnt a powerfull a good engine between.
The 1.6 170hp engine was a good choice for high taxes countries..
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Looks e46ish, nice.
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There are a lot of little less expensive cars out there with a lower price.
On the flip side, there are a lot of more expensive cars out there with a higher price.
Hahaha. I meant higher hp. Like the focus RS, and Honda Civic R.
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The W205 C-class definitely stepped up the game in terms of interior and exterior design. Don't know if I can say the same about the B9 A4. Exterior is evolutionary and arguably less aggressive looking than the B8 A4/S4. I'm not a fan of the strip of vents/faux-vents going across the whole dash.

The B9's MIB2 system with the Virtual Cockpit, however, seems a class above. Looks like the G20 may have something similar from the spy pics. Or it could just be the same 6WB cluster that has trickled down, in which case would be a bit of a disappointment.

It sounds like the G20 might be approaching the size of the E60. BMW definitely needs something below the 3 then, hopefully with RWD.
The C-Klasse is basically what it has always been. An S-Klasse shrunk down but when you step into a C-Klasse from the S-Klasse the differences are evident.
Such as you are confronted by real metal in the S-Klasse but in the C it is metal-coated plastic.

The Audi A4 sums up the erratic design thinking at VW Group today. There is no soul each as each VW brand are utilising the same design elements.
The Audi albeit evolutionary is barely recognise able from its predecessor.
The new A5 is visually awful and the Q7 looks like an enlarged Chevrolet Captiva. Even the R8 has lost its looks to try to incorporate angular elements which are extremely misplaced.

The new 3er will be a mixture of both evolutionary and revolutionary.
The C-Pillar is raked further a few inches therefore adding more typical BMW sport orientated outline to the car. The rear deck is always short as it has been and there is more three-dimensional surfacing adjoining the Character line that sitting diagonally looks like a triangular shape when all lines meet from the front wing,under the glasshouse and the rear light unit.

As well as the lower surface which like the 5er use an Air Breather on the wing but without a full length trim element like the BMW 7er and upcoming 5er Gran Turismo. The bonnet line is low and now extends to the grille, headlights are sleeker and utilise optional Laser Light Technology but the actual lenses become octangular. Headlights are sharper in overall unit shape and will showcase a new angular appearance.

At the rear the rear lights are thinner and placed higher on the bootlid. The actual L shape is longer with the placement of the main unit merging with the Character-line as it wraps around.

The interior heralds the introduction of the ConnectedDrive Interaction screen incorporating touch screen with Apps selection and gesture control which a wide screen sits at an angle to the driver from the passenger side.
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The W205 C-class definitely stepped up the game in terms of interior and exterior design. Don't know if I can say the same about the B9 A4. Exterior is evolutionary and arguably less aggressive looking than the B8 A4/S4. I'm not a fan of the strip of vents/faux-vents going across the whole dash.

The B9's MIB2 system with the Virtual Cockpit, however, seems a class above. Looks like the G20 may have something similar from the spy pics. Or it could just be the same 6WB cluster that has trickled down, in which case would be a bit of a disappointment.

It sounds like the G20 might be approaching the size of the E60. BMW definitely needs something below the 3 then, hopefully with RWD.
The C-Klasse is basically what it has always been. An S-Klasse shrunk down but when you step into a C-Klasse from the S-Klasse the differences are evident.
Such as you are confronted by real metal in the S-Klasse but in the C it is metal-coated plastic.

The Audi A4 sums up the erratic design thinking at VW Group today. There is no soul each as each VW brand are utilising the same design elements.
The Audi albeit evolutionary is barely recognise able from its predecessor.
The new A5 is visually awful and the Q7 looks like an enlarged Chevrolet Captiva. Even the R8 has lost its looks to try to incorporate angular elements which are extremely misplaced.

The new 3er will be a mixture of both evolutionary and revolutionary.
The C-Pillar is raked further a few inches therefore adding more typical BMW sport orientated outline to the car. The rear deck is always short as it has been and there is more three-dimensional surfacing adjoining the Character line that sitting diagonally looks like a triangular shape when all lines meet from the front wing,under the glasshouse and the rear light unit.

As well as the lower surface which like the 5er use an Air Breather on the wing but without a full length trim element like the BMW 7er and upcoming 5er Gran Turismo. The bonnet line is low and now extends to the grille, headlights are sleeker and utilise optional Laser Light Technology but the actual lenses become octangular. Headlights are sharper in overall unit shape and will showcase a new angular appearance.

At the rear the rear lights are thinner and placed higher on the bootlid. The actual L shape is longer with the placement of the main unit merging with the Character-line as it wraps around.

The interior heralds the introduction of the ConnectedDrive Interaction screen incorporating touch screen with Apps selection and gesture control which a wide screen sits at an angle to the driver from the passenger side.
Just post a picture makes it easier for us ^^^
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Shall we take bets on whether or not this thing will have rear incandescents?
+1 - When the e46 LCI had LEDs it was progress. When the e90 had incandescents pre-LCI then LEDs post-LCI it was a little silly. Then the same with the F30... come on BMW. If the G20 is also the same it's complete bullshit. I know it's minor but to me it's more indicative of the other stuff they purposely hold out.
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The W205 C-class definitely stepped up the game in terms of interior and exterior design. Don't know if I can say the same about the B9 A4. Exterior is evolutionary and arguably less aggressive looking than the B8 A4/S4. I'm not a fan of the strip of vents/faux-vents going across the whole dash.

The B9's MIB2 system with the Virtual Cockpit, however, seems a class above. Looks like the G20 may have something similar from the spy pics. Or it could just be the same 6WB cluster that has trickled down, in which case would be a bit of a disappointment.

It sounds like the G20 might be approaching the size of the E60. BMW definitely needs something below the 3 then, hopefully with RWD.
The C-Klasse is basically what it has always been. An S-Klasse shrunk down but when you step into a C-Klasse from the S-Klasse the differences are evident.
Such as you are confronted by real metal in the S-Klasse but in the C it is metal-coated plastic.

The Audi A4 sums up the erratic design thinking at VW Group today. There is no soul each as each VW brand are utilising the same design elements.
The Audi albeit evolutionary is barely recognise able from its predecessor.
The new A5 is visually awful and the Q7 looks like an enlarged Chevrolet Captiva. Even the R8 has lost its looks to try to incorporate angular elements which are extremely misplaced.

The new 3er will be a mixture of both evolutionary and revolutionary.
The C-Pillar is raked further a few inches therefore adding more typical BMW sport orientated outline to the car. The rear deck is always short as it has been and there is more three-dimensional surfacing adjoining the Character line that sitting diagonally looks like a triangular shape when all lines meet from the front wing,under the glasshouse and the rear light unit.

As well as the lower surface which like the 5er use an Air Breather on the wing but without a full length trim element like the BMW 7er and upcoming 5er Gran Turismo. The bonnet line is low and now extends to the grille, headlights are sleeker and utilise optional Laser Light Technology but the actual lenses become octangular. Headlights are sharper in overall unit shape and will showcase a new angular appearance.

At the rear the rear lights are thinner and placed higher on the bootlid. The actual L shape is longer with the placement of the main unit merging with the Character-line as it wraps around.

The interior heralds the introduction of the ConnectedDrive Interaction screen incorporating touch screen with Apps selection and gesture control which a wide screen sits at an angle to the driver from the passenger side.
You did that sketch?
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Update: August 8, 2016
Here's a first look at the G20 3 Series interior. From what we can see so far, the G20 interior is evolutionary, maintaining a similar center stack design and layout as in the F30. The biggest changes seen so far are the part physical / part digital instrument panel, and a more upright iDrive screen which appears to be positioned higher than the F30 screen.

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so it looks like the door lock is moving to the doors (which sucks) and seriously???? manual HVAC controls on a "Luxury Sedan"??? Thats the biggest hazards button ive ever seen

looks like the interior is mostly the same as the f30 except for the instrument cluster. looking pretty lazy to me
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I like the instrument cluster.
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Update: August 8, 2016
Here's a first look at the G20 3 Series interior. From what we can see so far, the G20 interior is evolutionary, maintaining a similar center stack design and layout as in the F30. The biggest changes seen so far are the part physical / part digital instrument panel, and a more upright iDrive screen which appears to be positioned higher than the F30 screen.

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Pretty minor difference in the lower part - hope there is a bigger step than we can see at the moment

And yeah what's going on with manual aircon? Is that really still possible? Even on the F30 it shouldn't be possible
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Wow they managed to make it uglier. Awesome. Ugh.
The cluster is atrocious.

Honestly, both the cluster and the glossy plastics in the center stack look like they were lifted from a Honda.

The emergency flashers button is bulbous and fugly.

Maybe BMW senses that VW is vulnerable and is trying to overtake them as the Honda of Germany.
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I really hope those hvac controls are just for testing and not a move to cheaper looking controls. Hard to see any major differences otherwise.
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