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      08-08-2016, 10:04 PM   #221
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Red-Blue climate wheel is either gone, or electronic. Electronic would allow this wheel's position to be part of your Profile memory I guess.
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This thing is very clearly using an F30 dashboard. How you guys actually think this is actually the G20 dash is beyond me.

It's one thing to be evolutionary, but the curves, lines, shapes of the instrument cluster hood and dash trim are IDENTICAL to the F30 parts. You don't make a new generation with identical parts, no matter how evolutionary it is.

They took the F30 dash, shoved in a new gauge cluster, the touch sensitive preset panel from the new 7 series, and the F30 manual climate panel to test components. The preset buttons and climate panel are literally held on by tape.
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This thing is very clearly using an F30 dashboard. How you guys actually think this is actually the G20 dash is beyond me.

It's one thing to be evolutionary, but the curves, lines, shapes of the instrument cluster hood and dash trim are IDENTICAL to the F30 parts. You don't make a new generation with identical parts, no matter how evolutionary it is.

They took the F30 dash, shoved in a new gauge cluster, the touch sensitive preset panel from the new 7 series, and the F30 manual climate panel to test components. The preset buttons and climate panel are literally held on by tape.
Agreed... This is not a big deal not should anyone be making decisions off of these images. Definitely a parts bin mashup.
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not going to lie the dash looks very interesting. but that steering wheel wtf lol. I really hope that's not the one they will stick with. looks kinda the same interior as the F gen with slight changes.
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This is not the interior but the current interior utilising new technology introduced within the new 7er. We are a long way away from seeing the actual interior.
That is a great relief. One of biggest vulnerabilities we have now is a poor interior style and quality vis a vis Mercedes. The new car must dazzle.
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Red-Blue climate wheel is either gone, or electronic. Electronic would allow this wheel's position to be part of your Profile memory I guess.
I love the climate wheel - it makes such a difference to the vent air temp - please don't ditch it BMW
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Better brakes! Yay
F30 brakes are lacking?
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      08-10-2016, 03:43 PM   #228
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Red-Blue climate wheel is either gone, or electronic. Electronic would allow this wheel's position to be part of your Profile memory I guess.
I love the climate wheel - it makes such a difference to the vent air temp - please don't ditch it BMW
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I was hoping (in vain) that the glued iPad would disappear...
Agree... My question is when we will finally see a new dashboard ?????
For almost last 10 years we have this small "ipad" placed in every BMW... aaaaah come on!!! Please bring us something new.. Even Porsche updated it's dashboard in the new Cayenne and Panamera...

BMW please do it too ... )
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Is what looks like a Merc speedo???

Surely not.......
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Agree... My question is when we will finally see a new dashboard ?????
For almost last 10 years we have this small "ipad" placed in every BMW... aaaaah come on!!! Please bring us something new.. Even Porsche updated it's dashboard in the new Cayenne and Panamera...

BMW please do it too ... )
10 years? The "iPad" sticking out of the dash started with the F30 in 2012. Unless you are counting the flip up screen or fixed enclosure on the E8x 1 series.
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This thing is very clearly using an F30 dashboard. How you guys actually think this is actually the G20 dash is beyond me.

It's one thing to be evolutionary, but the curves, lines, shapes of the instrument cluster hood and dash trim are IDENTICAL to the F30 parts. You don't make a new generation with identical parts, no matter how evolutionary it is.

They took the F30 dash, shoved in a new gauge cluster, the touch sensitive preset panel from the new 7 series, and the F30 manual climate panel to test components. The preset buttons and climate panel are literally held on by tape.
Totally agree. This is clearly an interior for a testing purpose. If wee look back at E46 up to F30, none of the 3 models had identical interiors. Each one had total changes from the previous model.

Even the steering is not gonna be the same. The one in the pictures is the one on the current F30.

To be more precise, it is the F30 dashboard with G20 gauges and gear lever and the screen. There's a pic from the right where the door is open. That air vent is F30.
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Longer and wider wheelbase, active anti-roll bars, active steering - sounds like the 3 is taking a couple more steps towards becoming the new 5 series.

I hope there's a RWD 1- or 2-series alternative for those that prefer smaller and simpler. I know that's probably wishful thinking with all the talk of FWD on the smaller platforms.
Yes, fully agree. I spent an hour yesterday looking at the best of the best members here cherished, e36 e46 and so on, specifically their dimensions. The main thing that comes to mind is that we have to adjust our mindset as to BMW design roadmap, as they will not do the opposite. More specifically, whatever they are doing to the 3 series is irrelevant because whatever BMW owners want to see in terms of sportiness and feel is embodied in the M2x / M2 series. The dimensions speak volumes: current M240 and M2 are bigger, sleeker and far more potent than the 33x e4x series were, and have displaced what the 3 series in scope. The 3 series is now bigger than 5 series 15 years ago, lighter and more powerful, and are becoming comfort oriented beasts.

So the argument I here often amongst people, that the 2 series are too small, the 3 series too soft and that e46 were awesome (which they were), does not change that the next gen 2 series is what many wanted from a 3 series post e30 generation, powerful, dynamic, and sporty. And since the 2 series are incher wider and longer than the e30 series, it boils down to going one series down in order to retain the driving feel.

But as much as the G20 may be carbon evolutionary, less weight etc, the dimensions suggest it has to be somewhat less sporty than prev gen, and it will have a bigger floatier feel.
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Update: November 11, 2016
The G20 3 Series has now moved beyond the cobbled together mule stage and this prototype shows us what to really to expect from the next gen 3 Series' styling - more svelte than the mule had led us to believe.

BMW 3 Series (G20) Prototype


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Looking good so far. As much as a love my F30, I will not miss the high hoodline.
About to place my order but yet that hood still bugs the hell out of me, can't delay 3 more years...@ least.
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These early shots kill me, looks much like our current F80. Take the camo off then maybe.
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I dunno, but BMW interiors are getting stale now, a new design is overdue. I am sure the quality of the materials will be fine, and maybe on par or better than the competition, is just the layout needs a new direction
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This thing is very clearly using an F30 dashboard. How you guys actually think this is actually the G20 dash is beyond me.

It's one thing to be evolutionary, but the curves, lines, shapes of the instrument cluster hood and dash trim are IDENTICAL to the F30 parts. You don't make a new generation with identical parts, no matter how evolutionary it is.

They took the F30 dash, shoved in a new gauge cluster, the touch sensitive preset panel from the new 7 series, and the F30 manual climate panel to test components. The preset buttons and climate panel are literally held on by tape.
While I agree with you, I think the G20 is going to retain most of the F30's layout and instead of the physical buttons, it might adopt the touch buttons found in the 5er and 7er so the G20 is going to be very familiar instead of the drastic change most want. If the G20 interior follows the 5er closely, I would be very happy but I think it's going to be more of an evolution of the F30 interior instead of following the G11 and G30.
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Is it going to drive like a Toyota just like the F30?
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Is it going to drive like a Toyota just like the F30?
lol man why so harsh on F30? it not that bad
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Look like an A4 in the rear 3/4 angle
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