[Jmpascual]

Personally I don't mind the lights connected to the grille. I actually like that each of these cars look different. At least they're not almost carbon copies like most of the Mercedes range.

[Jmpascual]

Originally Posted by Alden_88M

I would wish to know if on the 3er will be the same as the 5er the part down where the wheel house is, The black "vent" type of thing.

My sisters man has the 5er wagon and that specific part is an immense grime collector he has had the car to the body-shop already due to gravel damaging the paint, i am not sure if BMW has thought this thru but this might be something too look out for if you are shopping for either the 5er today or the new 3er whom possibly will have this feature for the aero dynamics.

The paint job behind it is going to be damaged a lot especially during winter when there is gravel and sand on the roads in larger quantities.

Would be nice to get some form of official response to this or how they thought about it. We know it is there for the aero dynamics of the car but is it really worth the damage to the paint that it causes?

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This picture seems to show a small "slit" that most camouflaged BMWs have that end up being the air vent for the production model.

[Nahlem]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

The air breather is still there. hope it will be better integrated into the design...

Hmm interesting, this should not deter people for buying the new 3er or 5er if they really want it but it is to be considering if putting Xpel all the way inside the vent to protect the paint from the gravel and sand so it dosn't get damaged, then eventfully starting to rust from the inside out. And then when you discover it, its to late.

So i truly hope it is better done then it is on the current 5er.

Thanks for the quick reply.

[Nahlem]

Originally Posted by Jmpascual

This picture seems to show a small "slit" that most camouflaged BMWs have that end up being the air vent for the production model.

That image specifically is what got me to post, so i am not the only one to see it.

Cheers.

Best regards.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Yes they are fake on the 3er,Z4 and The 8. But will provide a function on the M3 and M8.

Originally Posted by Jmpascual

This picture seems to show a small "slit" that most camouflaged BMWs have that end up being the air vent for the production model.

Considering we've already received confirmation that the outlets on the rear bumper are cosmetic; and the side vents are cosmetic on the X3; are we placing bets on the 3er's side vents are also purely cosmetic?

[tonymac1]

The stance is looking very aggressive

[thaalrasha]

It looks just like a smaller G30, design seems so close as far as the camouflage allows us to see... A bit disapointed they have only one design for 3-5-7 series, they just play on the scale... Brand is lacking personality between models, too much like Audis...

[Rschin2]

Originally Posted by thaalrasha

It looks just like a smaller G30, design seems so close as far as the camouflage allows us to see... A bit disapointed they have only one design for 3-5-7 series, they just play on the scale... Brand is lacking personality between models, too much like Audis...

the 5 and the 7 look nothing alike. Can't stand when people say this

[WULFFZA]

Just saw whatI am convinced to be camo'd G20 like in these pics, in white, rolling behind new series in Long Beach, CA around 6pm today. Sorry, no pic, I was stuck at a light and couldn't catch up.

Be on the lookout Angelenos

[upsidedownfunnel]

It looks like one trim has those nasty disconnected fake exhaust tips and another trim has real exhaust dual round exhaust tips.



vs



I wonder which is which? It'd be a shame if they made the M-sport with those exhaust tips. I'm not as averse to them as some people are, but I do prefer the round tips.

[advantage20]

Originally Posted by upsidedownfunnel

It looks like one trim has those nasty disconnected fake exhaust tips and another trim has real exhaust dual round exhaust tips.



vs



I wonder which is which? It'd be a shame if they made the M-sport with those exhaust tips. I'm not as averse to them as some people are, but I do prefer the round tips.

Trapezoid exhaust tips mean top non-M petrol / diesel engines = M Performance M340i / M340d. All other engines and trim levels including regular M Sport seem to be getting round tips in various configurations, dual exhaust layout meaning top non-M Performance engines = 330i / likely 330d.

[upsidedownfunnel]

Originally Posted by advantage20

The trapezoid exhaust tips are for the M Performance M340i / M340d, not the regular M Sport:

Oh, that's too bad. I like the classic look of round tailpipes. Not a dealbreaker, though. The lack of a 6MT is the real dealbreaker. The M340i sounds so promising, too. Finally, a factory installed LSD, MPPSK and M Sport brakes. It'll be like a baby M car, but without a manual. I'm not lamenting its loss, as I knew this would happen. I was just hoping there'd be one more generation with it as I was really expecting to get one last manual car when the G20 came out.

[DeeKay]

Originally Posted by upsidedownfunnel

It looks like one trim has those nasty disconnected fake exhaust tips and another trim has real exhaust dual round exhaust tips.



vs



I wonder which is which? It'd be a shame if they made the M-sport with those exhaust tips. I'm not as averse to them as some people are, but I do prefer the round tips.

Aaaaarhhhhh!!!

I really really HATE the fake exhaust trend - Audi, Volvo and Merc is ruining many of their good looks by placing terrible stuff like this on otherwise good looking cars... Why does it have to come to BMW models

[BillD1953]

Originally Posted by upsidedownfunnel

Oh, that's too bad. I like the classic look of round tailpipes. Not a dealbreaker, though. The lack of a 6MT is the real dealbreaker. The M340i sounds so promising, too. Finally, a factory installed LSD, MPPSK and M Sport brakes. It'll be like a baby M car, but without a manual. I'm not lamenting its loss, as I knew this would happen. I was just hoping there'd be one more generation with it as I was really expecting to get one last manual car when the G20 came out.

I received a call on my cell yesterday from BMWUSA asking my opinion on the new M40i, dealership, etc.

Stated I loved the M40i and also stated I am very disappointed the M40i could be one of my last BMWs I order/buy new.

The guy asked "why"? I said....." I'll be buying a 4 door performance 6MT RWD sedan next year and as I understand it the new 3 series G20 M340i will be available in the states as an auto only". "BMW will lose a sale and customer"...."what a shame"

The guy said. "I'll pass your comments along"

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by DeeKay

Aaaaarhhhhh!!!

I really really HATE the fake exhaust trend - Audi, Volvo and Merc is ruining many of their good looks by placing terrible stuff like this on otherwise good looking cars... Why does it have to come to BMW models

Trying to copy the competition??? Very often German brands copy each other models/specs and even what is bad designs such as these fake exhausts... All that because they are so frightened to lose market share. IMO Porsche is the only German company doing their own things...

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

Trying to copy the competition??? Very often German brands copy each other models/specs and even what is bad designs such as these fake exhausts... All that because they are so frightened to lose market share. IMO Porsche is the only German company doing their own things...

Hey now, Cadillac had the fake exhaust thing first! I agree that it is beyond hideous and far from anything that should ever be found on a BMW, but then again, "BMW" doesn't stand for what it always has, so it's not surprising.

[kozzi]

Originally Posted by DeeKay

Aaaaarhhhhh!!!

I really really HATE the fake exhaust trend - Audi, Volvo and Merc is ruining many of their good looks by placing terrible stuff like this on otherwise good looking cars... Why does it have to come to BMW models

I don't get the argument that the upcoming M340i has "fake" exhaust tips. Just because the exhaust tips are not round, does not mean they are not functional. The aesthetics of trapezoid shaped exhaust tips is a whole different argument. I personally prefer that they kept them round but it seems that this is the direction BMW is going with all their M Performance vehicles.

IMO, here is what a fake exhaust looks like and that is not what BMW will be doing with the M340i. Just my opinion.

[motorwerkeman]

This is looking like a very well-proportioned sedan. I am liking how the rear end looks much lower and wider with the 3D tail light elements pushed as far outboard as they could. There looks the be a crease in the headlamp lenses that is picked up in the grille slats which gives the front end a lot of depth. With regards to design language, this appears to be halfway between the current surfacing, and may have some of the 8er/Z4 concept surfacing. The grille is definitely on par with what I am expecting to see in the forthcoming 8er, X5, X7 etc. The Hofmeister kink and C-pillar appear camouflaged - makes me wonder if it will look like what we see on the 8GC concept:



I am still split on the headlight-grill connection for the front end. I hated the F30 front end at first but have come around to it after realizing BMW's always used to have the grilles and headlamps spanning the entire front end. It looks to be better executed here than on the F30 and G30, but still cant help but wonder what it would look like without the connected headlamps.

Looking forward to seeing more soon.

[DeeKay]

Originally Posted by kozzi

I don't get the argument that the upcoming M340i has "fake" exhaust tips. Just because the exhaust tips are not round, does not mean they are not functional. The aesthetics of trapezoid shaped exhaust tips is a whole different argument. I personally prefer that they kept them round but it seems that this is the direction BMW is going with all their M Performance vehicles.

IMO, here is what a fake exhaust looks like and that is not what BMW will be doing with the M340i. Just my opinion.

Agree this is just a massive design disaster to me. But the big trapezoid often means small pipes are dangling inside them. Lazy design

[YeaG30]

Originally Posted by kozzi

I don't get the argument that the upcoming M340i has "fake" exhaust tips. Just because the exhaust tips are not round, does not mean they are not functional. The aesthetics of trapezoid shaped exhaust tips is a whole different argument. I personally prefer that they kept them round but it seems that this is the direction BMW is going with all their M Performance vehicles.

IMO, here is what a fake exhaust looks like and that is not what BMW will be doing with the M340i. Just my opinion.

I dont think its a question of round vs. trapezoidal, its the fact that the exhaust outlet doesn't actually connect to the final shape out of the bumper. Its a trim piece integrated into the bumper but not connected to the exhaust system. Essentially there is no true exhaust tip.

It seems as though the germans tend to copy each other's design trend and in this instance, it is BMW is taking from the MB C-Class with regards to the fake rear side vent and trapezoidal "exhaust tip".

[kern417]

If the M550i is any indication, then it will be a real exhaust tip. Just square-shaped instead of round.



I hate it either way lol. Simple dual round tips look perfect on pretty much every car. Same goes for fog lights that now seem to come in all sorts of shapes aand sizes. I'm not into the integrated bumper design of these elements.

But for folks that are into it, it'll make a simple job of swapping to quad round tips.

[kozzi]

Originally Posted by DeeKay

Agree this is just a massive design disaster to me. But the big trapezoid often means small pipes are dangling inside them. Lazy design

Originally Posted by YeaF30

I dont think its a question of round vs. trapezoidal, its the fact that the exhaust outlet doesn't actually connect to the final shape out of the bumper. Its a trim piece integrated into the bumper but not connected to the exhaust system. Essentially there is no true exhaust tip.

It seems as though the germans tend to copy each other's design trend and in this instance, it is BMW is taking from the MB C-Class with regards to the fake rear side vent and trapezoidal "exhaust tip".

In regards to the X3 M40i, the outlets are welded to the exhaust system and not attached to the bumper. I wish they kept the outlets round but this is the way BMW has chosen to separate M Performance from the round outlets of the 30i M-Sport and the quad exhaust of the upcoming X3M. We can expect the new 3er and the M340i to follow this trend.