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If these things really have significantly limited range - and thus fall in to somewhat a "supplemental" role for some rather than a replacement role for all, are we really accomplishing what we are trying to accomplish?
Is more cars driving the same number of total miles a good outcome? Is it more "green"? It takes a lot of energy to build these things. If the EV is an extra for putting around town (even for some portion of customers) is that success?
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The point is to reduce a large number of pollution sources down to one slightly less polluting source. |
The whole thought process of forcing EVs on consumers doesn't make sense to me given the data shows the bulk of emissions come from energy production and industrial uses, when combined. Yes, transportation makes up about 30% but that includes all transportation (cargo ships, trucks, trains, airlines, etc.). If we apply the same efforts to these other emission sources we'll see a much greater reduction. Plus where does the electricity for the extra energy come from for all these EVs? |
The cars we drive around aren't making the difference but they're an easier thing to tackle. |
And what auto manufacturers won't reveal too easily is that the EV's probably have a better ROI for them than ICE cars. Wich the sofistication of ICE cars today I would think they save quite a bit with an EV, a lot more software programming than mechanical engineering.
I wouldn't think about it too much, manufacturers are ramping up huge amount of credits from there EV offerings to be able to sell ICE cars for a long time. It's not because some manufacturers jump on the hype train and declare stupid stuff like all there cars will be EVs that everyone is going to do it. |
As long as they keep some staples around, I think they can keep marching along making money and making consumers happy. I think there will always be a market for ICE in trucks and sports cars. Speed is great. But I'd drive an ICE sport sedan over and EV, regardless of the 0-60 they can pull from the EV. There's a feel to the revs and the gear shifts that's very satisfying. |
ICE will be around for decades because developing countries have gas, diesel and kerosene.
They don't have reliable electric grids.