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      01-23-2019, 07:10 PM   #312
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Why no manual though?

And why no rear seats?

Who is their target audience for this?

These just dont add up
No manual because there isn't enough demand to invest in offering one. That money is being spent developing electric drivetrains and autonomous driving systems.

Target audience is people who want a compact; true 2-seater sports car. This answer also addresses your second question.

Funny- for how often people complain about cars getting larger, I hear near-zero praise for this car's compact size.
3400 pounds isn't small. They got the length right, same as a Cayman, but missed the weight by 400 pounds.
Oh! So it's the weight that is making it large... even though it isn't actually large. Umkay.
No, it's big. It's 14 inches longer than my M Coupe was and 4 inches longer than my GTI. So yes, large and fat. Both.
I didn't check your numbers, but if I may add another perspective...

The Supra's 4379mm length is identical to a Cayman S, but at 1854mm wide it's a little narrower than the Porsche, which measures 1994mm across. In terms of wheelbase there's only 5mm in it.

The TT RS is shorter and narrower than both but with a longer wheelbase, while the M2 is the longer for both overall length and wheelbase, and is just a little narrower than the Cayman S.

As for the weight... a Supra's weight sounds like a lot until you consider the M2 weighs more.

Granted, an M2 is a 2+2, but it's generally considered a small tossable car. The A90 is smaller and lighter. Where's the applause?
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