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      01-13-2020, 10:50 AM   #419
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I imagine this will be 6 series size dimensions. Welcome to the new 6 series.
Exactly what I was thinking, looks like a new 6 series. I have no interest in large cars. The reveal of the 8 series last year did nothing for me and this doesn't either.

While a future M4 CSL will be impressive, it will probably be overpriced and won't sell well.
Yeah the M4 CS/L already exists in a niche market of buyers. Plus the people who just want to brag usually just top out at the comp model. Don't expect for the next generation to sale as much either.

I really hope the 4 series don't evolve into GT proportions but it seems inevitable with how big cars keeps getting. 2 series might be the last hope.
GT proportions are definitely coming to gran coupes. There's a reason why the 2GC's tall rear end looks so familiar...
Remember that the 2gc is only a 2 series in name, it's built on a 1 series platform. The 1 series is a fwd hatch back, hence the awkward looking stance of the 2gc.

Do you realize that you almost never post anything positive here anymore? I understand that you might not like most new models that bmw has been releasing, but then why are you still so active here? Why stick around just to constantly criticize a corporation that's going in a direction that you are no longer interested in? Don't get me wrong, you've crafted some detailed, well written posts, I'm just trying to understand the psychology of the critics here. Maybe the act of critiquing provides satisfaction as an end itself? Perhaps it's in the belief that one can influence the direction of an international corporation via criticism voiced on Internet forums. I don't know, but it's a curiosity of mine.
All I simply said was the 2GC's rear end looks reminiscent of the 5GT, and that GT proportions were coming based on spy shots of the i4 and 4er Gran Coupe. You can take that as criticism if you want it but no where did I say it was ugly or stupid, I simply just said that taller GT proportions are going to be infused with GC design, as this was confirmed long ago on Bimmerpost when BMW cancelled all GT's.

This is the 4-Series thread, there isn't much positive here regardless of who posts it, this is probably the worst thread to be in if you are looking for positive comments regarding the 4er's design/BMW's future, because most enthusiasts simply don't like it, and have the right to voice their opinion on that with this new 4er being extremely controversial.

I'm still on Bimmerpost as I still own a BMW and still post lots of content here, many of the threads being positive (BMW being #1 in sales, many comparison tests of BMW winning, Apple Carplay coming for us, my fun time with a Z4 loaner) and have the right to do so. Earlier this month I wrote a whole thread on how the Z4 is a great vehicle in BMW's lineup, one that is so close to having me buy it if it had a manual. Did I give some constructive feedback on how the car could be a bit better? Yes, as no car is perfect, but if you read that article, I state it is one of my favorite modern BMW's and that owners are very lucky to have a great vehicle in their garages. It might not have been the most popular as the G29 forums are pretty quiet, but there is a lot of positive content there. On here I've helped voice my opinion as to what BMW perspective buyers should look at whether that be specific models, options, what to look out for reliability wise, what cars to compare it to, etc. As they've asked for the help of owners and I love to help out any way I can. I've congratulated new owners on their beautiful cars as I really am happy for them and that they've bought some great bimmers, and posted articles that I think people would find interesting such as Apple Carplay finally being free, or a comparison test between the Giulia and 3-Series.

Are there some articles where I have criticized BMW? Of course, but that is what many of us do. BMW will never be perfect, as no brand can, and criticism always can lead to a better and more positive future. If people hadn't criticized BMW charging for Apple Carplay a feature that is free in most economy cars, what else could BMW try to get us to pay subscriptions for? I do remember there was a rumor to make safety options a subscriptions, so sometimes, criticism is necessary.

Do I not like some new BMW's? Yes, BMW is not perfect, so of course I won't like everything they offer. I don't care for the 5 or 7 series and possibly this new 4-series' design, so if someone is asking for owners opinions on these vehicles, I'm always honest with how I felt about my 5er. Regarding the 2,3,X3,X5, and X7, I've stated many times that I do find these vehicles to be very good, and most of the times to be class leaders, and I have even shared posts about getting an X3 for myself on the G01 forums after my son takes his to college.

So yes, I do criticize BMW as I have the right to share my opinion even if certain people don't like it, but I have my fair share of praise and positive posts on here, and at the end of the day, this is the internet, there'll be plenty more people who will criticize or praise BMW as well.
You're entitled to your opinion, but you shouldn't make statements such as "most enthusiasts hate the design". There's no way for you to quantify that statement. The microcosm that is Bimmerpost is not representative of the world.
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