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      04-30-2019, 06:22 AM   #115
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Tesla Superchargers use a proprietary charging plug. (Not the industry standard J1772). Adapters to insert a J1772 into a Tesla are fairly common, but adapters to plug a Tesla Plug into a J1772 are much harder to find. (I do have one though to be able to plug my i8 into my Tesla home charger).

...and Tesla Superchargers are only free for Model-S and Model-X models.

I don't see how Musk can open Tesla Chargers to other vehicles if the plugs don't fit. Maybe he expects folks to have these relatively hard-to-find adapters?

Over 70% of EV owners charge at home anyway. I've had a Model-X for over 3 years now and I've never even SEEN a Supercharger much less used one. We just plug our car in every night. Done. (We don't use our EV for long road trips - we have ICE vehicles for that...)
I'd guess Musk would be happy to sell an adapter and pay per kwh charging...or maybe even use-it-or-lose-it subscription charging! Btw, I ended up getting an M4 not the Tesla we discussed over many Bitburgers last summer . There's an electric in my future...just not yet!
I'm not sure - it's really the moat around Tesla and would outrage existing owners. Musk has indicated willingness to share the tech, but at this point, nearing saturation in some areas, I don't think he'd be able to share the existing network.

I have an i3s as a second car and it's a disaster trying to travel more than a 100 miles. At least on the East Coast, the DC fast charging network is abysmal (few chargers, those that do 'exist' often are out of order).

I know there are efforts to change that, but until Electrify America, EVGo, Charge Point and others really get to work (years from now) you'll be entirely reliant on home or destination charging (i.e L2, which is likely fine for many) with a BMW.

Worse still, as I write this, Tesla is rolling out 150-200Kw supercharging. In my experience, the non-Tesla network struggles mightily to reliable give 50-75kw.
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