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Originally Posted by EXE46
I did test drive the 3.3T, I am no loyal fanboy. I left BMW when the F30 debuted and got a Lexus 3IS which was a better drivers car then but slow. When i say Genesis is no Lexus I meant Lexus is well regarded, their cars are the most reliable bar none. They have the best resale values etc and their buyers are not running to Genesis, they're very loyal and rightfully so. Lexus makes some boring cars and some interesting ones but it is a fact their cars are reliable and they have great quality materials.
Running cost on almost all Lexus is significantly lower than any other luxury brand. It's why most Lexus's are purchased and not leased like the Germans. Those are facts and lest you forget, the large buying public are not enthusiast like us. They want quality and reliability and that's where Lexus dominates. Genesis has no such regard, the Kia Stinger for example is known to have numerous quality issues, stuff breaks on it that doesn't normally break on other cars. Lexus has their unique niche and their loyal client base. Genesis doesn't have that and probably never will. BMW guys buys BMW, same for Audi and Mercedes. It will take Genesis at least a decade before one say if they're a worthy competitor. Building a decent driver's car is one thing, finding people to sell them to is different.
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There's another comment of yours i don't agree that Genesis will probably never have loyal client base. that's a big statement right there. I'm one of those loyal clients. I just find that their cars are super well built and is still a great value....if you purchase, not lease (for now). The big problem with Genesis right now is brand recognition and depreciation. this is not because they are not good cars, I think Hyundai and Kia are at no. 1 and no. 3 spot respectively in front of all car makers for owner satisfaction or dependability. in any case i'm not trying to convince anybody of anything. in the end i'm just happy that the car magazines see what i see in Genesis and are giving them some credit and comparing their great cars with the best out there like bmw and mercs. Genesis (and the Hyundai group) has made tremendous changes in the last 5 years and it shows in their cars. They are really well built, super reliable and a lot of fun to drive. I know all the people that really know about cars (like the people that review cars) know this, it's just that it takes time for people to change their view because Hyundai & Kia had a bad reputation in the past for unreliable cars etc (that darn pony and stellar lol!). but that's a thing of the past. btw did you see their new suv's (palissade and telluride)? much better than all their "weight class" including the ford explorer, toyota highlander, you name it. i'm telling you, they are doing things right and it's just a matter of time before they become the brand to own one day!