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      12-25-2023, 11:18 PM   #1914
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Originally Posted by hooked View Post
You are probably right, but if the Z4 got one for its LCI, I'm hopeful they will see that success (fingers crossed the manual Z4 sells better) and take a harder look at their other manuals. Feel like BMW has been "mailing them in" reluctantly and it took Toyota (of all companies) to get their attention! My son's 30K Honda Civic Si has a better stick than most BMWs and it shouldn't be that way.
What year is his Civic Si? I had a 2000 Acura Integra which is the same as Civic Si for over a decade. I was also considering a BMW 323, but ended up with the Integra because it was more affordable at the time. 323 had a more refined manual transmission. After that decade, I got an Infiniti G37 with manual, which I chose over 335 AWD with manual, also because of affordability, but they had pretty similar stick feeling. I drove the new Integra with manual and the new M2, 3, and 4 6MT. No comparison. M wins.
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