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      06-29-2018, 12:00 PM   #1122
kern417
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Originally Posted by dmboone25 View Post
So those changes are worthy of association with M? Give me a break...

anyone can get a PPK, so that's not a big deal. And if the 235 had a different sports suspension, then I would have to guess that the 230 is a car that handles quite terribly.

The 235 was floaty, squishy, and devoid of feedback. It was so bad that I took the financial hit after 18 months, and got into a 981 CS, which was on another planet in every way imaginable.

But you're right - that's just my personal experience.
Moving to a porsche is cheating

But realistically, the M235 was the same way. You could get the same bumpers, brakes, suspension, etc on the 230i. The only real benefit i saw was that you got more power from the factory vs a standard N55 car. but otherwise, the ///M designation itself just meant you got all the track package/msport package parts as standard.
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As long as 3-pedals are an option, I will exercise my right to suffer the handicap and indignity of slower shifts and reaction times.
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