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      10-23-2019, 08:51 PM   #47
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I agree with you that genesis still can't measure up to the big four but not by a lot.
But your comment that "genesis is no lexus" there i disagree. Genesis is better than lexus in my view. The G70 is a better car than IS, the G80 is better than GS and the G90 is about same as LS but costs $30k less.
My G90 is a heck of a car, just as good or better than LS but costs $30 k less! That's a big difference.
Also they are not comparing genesis to lexus, they are comparing their models to bmw and mercs for a reason.
Let their new hires from Audi and m division do their thing and we'll talk again in a couple of years.
Btw they are about to release the new G80 and GV80 (suv). Go check them out, you'll be impressed even if u own a bmw. I know i am and own an x5 and m5
I did test drive the 3.3T, I am no loyal fanboy. I left BMW when the F30 debuted and got a Lexus 3IS which was a better drivers car then but slow. When i say Genesis is no Lexus I meant Lexus is well regarded, their cars are the most reliable bar none. They have the best resale values etc and their buyers are not running to Genesis, they're very loyal and rightfully so. Lexus makes some boring cars and some interesting ones but it is a fact their cars are reliable and they have great quality materials.

Running cost on almost all Lexus is significantly lower than any other luxury brand. It's why most Lexus's are purchased and not leased like the Germans. Those are facts and lest you forget, the large buying public are not enthusiast like us. They want quality and reliability and that's where Lexus dominates. Genesis has no such regard, the Kia Stinger for example is known to have numerous quality issues, stuff breaks on it that doesn't normally break on other cars. Lexus has their unique niche and their loyal client base. Genesis doesn't have that and probably never will. BMW guys buys BMW, same for Audi and Mercedes. It will take Genesis at least a decade before one say if they're a worthy competitor. Building a decent driver's car is one thing, finding people to sell them to is different.
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