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      10-23-2019, 08:26 PM   #45
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The truth is even if the G70 was as fast/good as the bimmer, people would still choose the bimmer simply because it's a bimmer (brand prestige).
Luxury today unfortunately is dictated by how expensive and unattainable things are.
In some cases you get what you pay for but most of the time you pay just for the brand name, not because your product is great.
If you know about cars then you know that Genesis makes really really good cars, i know because i used to own the first generation of genesis cars (hyundai genesis) and it was one of the best cars i owned and currently own a G90 (another fantastic car).
Genesis is trying to build a name for themselves and just the fact that they are comparing the G70 with a 3 series or the G90 against the S class it just shows you how good the Genesis brand is.
Mark my words the day will come when the Genesis cars will be at the same level as bimmers and mercs or even better and that day is closing in very quickly.
For me, There's zero point in spending more than double the money to get a 7 series or S class, my G90 is a fantastic car just as is the G70 but you will have to overcome the fact that it does not have the brand prestige that bimmers or mercs have.....just yet. But just wait.


Your argument doesn't hold, again, not everybody buys on price and despite what you proclaim, there are many goods where price is synonymous with quality. You don't always get a comparable product when your main criteria is to go with the cheaper alternative. More often than not the cheaper product is inferior. You may think the BMW is expensive but when compared to a typical Porsche it is cheap. Conversely your G80 is expensive compared to an Avalon etc.

Genesis is late to market and while the G70 is competitive the brand itself still have far to go before it can stand with the big four. Furthermore, the market today is extremely competitive, much more so than it was in the 90's when Lexus debuted the LS400. Genesis is no Lexus and even Lexus doesn't sell as many cars as they used to. Lexus already captures the buyers that would most likely buy the Genesis. At the end of the day, you buy what makes you happy I guess or what you can afford. I would love a 991.2 GT3 RS but I can only afford a cheap M340i today, one day I will have my GT3 though.

PS. New M340i's can be had for less than 60k, mine was a hair over 60k. No need for professional driver assistance and a bunch of other options people choose, complete waste for a drivers car, but then again who am I to tell another person how to spend their hard earned money.

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I agree with you that genesis still can't measure up to the big four but not by a lot.
But your comment that "genesis is no lexus" there i disagree. Genesis is better than lexus in my view. The G70 is a better car than IS, the G80 is better than GS and the G90 is about same as LS but costs $30k less.
My G90 is a heck of a car, just as good or better than LS but costs $30 k less! That's a big difference.
Also they are not comparing genesis to lexus, they are comparing their models to bmw and mercs for a reason.
Let their new hires from Audi and m division do their thing and we'll talk again in a couple of years.
Btw they are about to release the new G80 and GV80 (suv). Go check them out, you'll be impressed even if u own a bmw. I know i am and own an x5 and m5
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