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      10-12-2021, 07:59 PM   #32
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You are obviously one of those people who drink the Kool aid. This article and other indicate that BMW car sales are better than MB and Audi because it had better supply chain.
You are the one making baseless accusations of people not wanting to admit better sales because of larger grilles and fwd etc or better cars. I have shown you facts and I can provide more but people like you who want to make accusations without facts won't care anyways. Obviously chips may not be the only deciding factor but is a huge when when you go into MB and they tell you they don't have any cars to sell and then BMW say what car do you want?
What facts have you shown us really? We all know about the supply issues and BMW's better management of parts but the reality is that the new BMW styling isn't nearly the deterrent that some here seem to portray it as. Since you are big on facts, there's no factual evidence that supports that the new styling is hurting sales. Large automakers primarily target mass consumers not enthusiasts as the internet has hated on Lexus grilles since they came out but Lexus market share has rebounded nicely from 2011 where they were at their low. I can't say with proof that the inclusion of the big grilles in 2011 is the reason they rebounded but we can be fairly confident that it certainly didn't hurt and probably helped.
If you can read I said sales are higher because of BMW's better management of supply. unlike some here who want to think the sales are better because of design etc. I have not indicated design hurt sales but the main fact is that because BMW has supply their sales are crushing MB and this was not the case the last few years where sales figures were fairly close when no supply issues and MB.
Actually there are layers to the response and you're being purposely disingenuous.

There are people who makes excuses for the company's success, even purporting that people buy cars they don't like and/or don't find particularly appealing. That is the common opinion of many who hate BMW's current design language and we've watched that perspective play out on discussion forums. Supply or not, if people didn't like the cars, they wouldn't be selling (…just like the car lots full of Volvo's and Alfa Romeo's). Never was it insinuated that sales are better because of the design, however, sales certainly aren't worse because of it…….which is what the detractors predicted.

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