09-08-2019, 02:39 PM | #1 |
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CNBC 330i Review
Not sure if anyone cares, but CNBC released their review of the 330i several hours ago:
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/09/08/...not-great.html |
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09-08-2019, 03:02 PM | #2 |
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Thanks for putting it up... always good to see/hear other views.
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Biased review. BMW is simply held to a higher standard than other cars in its class. Not to mention the comparison is baseless and without merit, largely subjective and based on false premise...
"The C-Class has a knockout interior"- subjective, I prefer streamlined BMW interior, Mercedes is too busy for my taste. "The A4 feels the most tech-forward" - Not even clear what this means? "Feels more tech forward" - The BMW has better and more advanced tech than the Audi. "The Giulia is a riot on the road" - this car does drive well. "The S60 is a styling masterpiece" - really?? Subjective. I disagree. "G70 has been praised as the best value"- if you can't afford or don't want to spend the money on a BMW, ok. But what about for those of us that do? The fact that the review takes 5 vehicles and points out ONE alleged quality in each of those vehicles which "betters" the 3 series does not make the BMW any less compelling and does not make either of these vehicles better than the BMW. It's not as though there is one vehicle out there that bests the BMW in each of these areas. Nonsense review, based off a nonsense premise! Finally, I won't trust a review from someone who cannot do simple mathematics.. Rating: Exterior: 3 Interior: 3 Driving Experience: 3.5 Value: 2.5 Overall: 2.5??? |
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None of these cars are a winner in every category. What more do they want from BMW, it can't be everything for everybody. All these cars appeal to a certain demographic and thus this review is pure BS. The Volvo buyer is not a BMW buyer. Alfa and BMW are the only two marques that are somewhat similar.The A4 is the most Vanilla followed by the Volvo. Comparing the Hyundai against the G20 is akin to comparing the Holiday Inn to a Four Seasons hotel. The Hyundai can only compete in this class on price, if they were to set their prices as that of the bimmer, nobody would buy them. Considering how cheap they are they're still not being bought by the masses.
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You're taking their review more personal than you should be. Reviewers are entitled to their opinions just as you are, and their subjective preferences hold as much merit as yours do. CNBC is/was not the first review to criticize the G-Series and consider other cars a better buy, and it sure won't be the last.
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+1. Read this and thought to myself what a joke of a review. Extremely biased and totally subjective. Everything you mentioned on this post is exactly what I thought. They cant even do basic math lol.
Sounds like the writer of this article cannot afford himself a BMW... I mean who compares a Volvo to a BMW? |
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In the past, Volvos may have been seen as Sweedish Buicks, as they weren't very pretty or luxurious, but very safe and boat like in handling, but since Geely, now everyone adores the styling inside and out, and considers them to be more of a luxury competitor more now than ever. Trust me, there are people who compare Volvos and BMWs, they just aren't enthusiasts. I'm a middle aged man and drove a 3 series in my late 30's and 40's, and I don't see many 20 something's being able to afford a brand new 3 series or BMW that costs well over $50k. If you look at the drivers of 3 series, most of them range from being 35+, and have a family, the typical buyer of luxury cars in general is typically middle aged. Of course there are some owners who are younger, but they aren't a large demographic of owners and represent a smaller group in compared to the general age group of owners. The simple fact is that "older/middle aged" (as in 35+) are one of the larger demographics of luxury cars. Most BMW buyers don't know what they buy, in today's society the badge on a front of a car is what a good portion of people care about hence why cars like the CLA exist (there's also examples of it on this forum with how some of the members here view the Genesis G70 with no actual experience behind the wheel, they just see it as "HyundaiJunk"). It's a real conversation I've had with multiple BMW owners. Here's one of the few. When I was at the dealer looking at the M340i, someone came up to me and asked how much I paid for my CLS, he said it looks really good and expensive and that it would impress a bunch of people and even quote on quote "get bitches". While accepting the compliments I asked what he drove. He said a 740iL, to which I said thats a nice car. He told me, he doesn't like it simply because the S class looks more expensive and would look more impressive to his friends. I asked, well don't you like parts of your car, like the nice engine, the Inline 6 is really smooth and has a good amount of power. He then asked me what an inline 6 was. He said he just assumed he had some type of V8 under the hood because of the "40i" badge, and didn't even know that the "L" in the badging referred to long-wheelbase. This is one of many similar conversations, from people thinking their 335i has a 3.5L V6, to people not even knowing their cars have turbos in them, or people thinking that German cars are the most reliable. These people couldn't care less about sports cars nor care about what engine their car actually has, in today's world, having the kidney grills, 4 rings, or 3 pointed star on the front of your car, is something to aspire to, and have to feel/look more impressive. Its like the people who buy 5 year old S-Classes with a shit ton of problems to look cool when instead they could just buy a new and reliable accord. The accord is the better car, but not the more impressive looking and cooler car. |
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