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I thought you said previously that the 4er was "controversial"?
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07-10-2019, 11:43 AM | #94 |
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07-10-2019, 12:15 PM | #95 | |
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Remember that the Z3 and Z4 based M vehicles sold absolutely terribly, I think this is why BMW has been cautious about its sub-M3 M models but the sales success of M2 has forced them to see the light. M2's sales numbers are comparable to M3 now so they should treat it as a full M product. The competition in this price & size range is also very serious. The new CLA45 AMG and Audi RS3 both have extremely impressive bespoke engines in them so it only makes sense for the S58 to be used to compete with those vehicles. |
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As I spend more time with it I come to appreciate its looks more and more not just the front but how it blends the sleek outline of the F32 and 8er's more organic muscular body together.
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Hmm. Actually got me thinking. The next C63 AMG will get even bigger and heavier, so to cut weight they'll probably go from the V8 all the way down to a tuned version of their new inline-4.
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This is unlikely. There's only a 100lb difference between the AMG 4 and 8 cylinder motors, and AMG has never really focused on lightness, they're all about raw power and noise.
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I definitely share your frustration, hope it is something they include.
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07-11-2019, 10:30 AM | #104 | |
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What I'm not open to is BMW M lowering their build quality, going from street-legal track cars to a stoplight poser car. While masses might not care about slight delay in manual shifts or 100 some kg increase in gross weight, I do. Substance is more important than appearance.
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Couldn't agree more....just saw the latest X6 interior and it is identical to my m850i interior...the sound from the new z is pretty similar to my m850i....needless to say the exclusivity even within the brand is gone.
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I feel the opposite when it comes to real M cars. Before the F series BMW cars you could buy any BMW and it felt special, it had that BMW feel. M cars took that feel to level 11. Today M cars still feel like BMWs while non M cars have lost most of that special BMW feel and the gap to me feel wider than ever.
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