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Furthermore, they already had the F32 B4 S with the N55 up to ~440hp, which is more than the base S55. So it's hard to believe that they would not take a similar approach with the B58. I'm not saying the above sources are wrong, but it's a little difficult to believe. I wonder if Alpina has confirmed this firsthand? |
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You know I like wagons ...
But man they need to start designing an new rim I mean c'mon ... look at those Z8 style wheels in the background - Let's evolve ...🍩
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Those rims are an Alpina trademark...
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09-11-2019, 09:21 AM | #51 | |
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B4 410ps - M4 431ps B4S 440ps - M4 CP 450ps As the forth coming M3/4 will be around the same outputs as the current X3/4M, M is as per usual always a bit more than Alpina so the new B3 continues this trend.
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There are lots of good reasons for an estate/touring/wagon...
Read this to see... https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/...sg/first-drive
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09-11-2019, 11:31 AM | #54 | |
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I still have doubts this vehicle is powered by an S58. It would be nice to see something official from Alpina. |
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I believe Car Throttle reports it as being a twin-turbo converted B58. If you take a look at engine close up pics, you see 2 intake inlets going from the 1 air box passenger side. Not so sure that is s58 or not tho. |
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Yes, I'm well aware even I mentioned it above,
stale as old bread is my point... it's 2020...maybe evolve from their trademark... even Hartge and ACS have / did. I'm saying that and I was there ( in the correct era ) also when Alpina first landed on Earth and more specifically - here in USA nor is it my first Alpina picnic. ðŸ™ðŸ¼
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Indeed, it would appear that history is repeating itself. Alpina's N55 engine also features a twin-turbo setup where the stock BMW N55 is single turbo. In fact, it was reported back at the time of its release that they bought the tooling from BMW: https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/...ic/first-drive So, it is not at all a stretch that their B58 would also feature a twin-turbo setup. That makes a heck of a lot more sense to me than an S58. I suspect that's what is powering this new B3. Hopefully Alpina will provide confirmation soon. |
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Having driven the B58 and S58, I can categorically state that the B58 sounds so much better.
So if Alpina have created a twin turbo B58, hopefully that too will sound nicer than the S58...
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trust me guys, its the s58 engine. i know this save.
Finally ALPINA builds up an Touring with an real ///M engine! wow! we eurpeans love Tourings and waiting sooo long for an M3Touring but ///M GmbH does not dare despied demand.... by the way: its the first ALPINA 3series with the m sport package in combo! love it |
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One downside of the classic wheels, is they must be a pig to clean...
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They've always " seemed " or appeared (?) heavy to me. Perhaps just their aesthetic .. I just find their wheels to be so period looking and of that period I think their best looks were on body codes such as E, not so much F and now G. I'm calm. It's all subjective no matter what anyhow. I love the classics just as much as anyone else I just kinda wished they'd evolved a bit is all. Like a really neat 3 piece w step lips or some crazy new ANKRY ( well maybe DIAL that back ) Forged Monoblock or something perhaps just a little ' daring ' ? For once ? Perhaps somewhere between these two ?
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Oh my, the more I look at this the more I love it.
Also, take a look at the pics again...seems it's next to a mirror and there are different wheels on the other side of the car? I like those mo' betta... |
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So the ones on the drivers side are the Alpina classics and the ones on the passenger side are called Alpina dynamics. They were introduced on the Alpina roadster (z8).
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Alpina would not use an M engine, also because it has not been developed with the 8AT transmission. Twin turbo setup as for the last generation, strengthened cooling system mainly.
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