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      03-03-2020, 05:20 PM   #155
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The car will be hideous plain and simple. I'm sure it will look better than the render but BMW has just lost it. Even on IG People are blowing up the 1 and 2er.

I'm sure some will like it, probably leasers who think new is better. BMW could have simply just changed the headlights and called it a day
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      03-03-2020, 05:27 PM   #157
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left and right headlights don't match? look at the corners where it comes at the grill, and the bumper doesn't match the previosly leaked photo of the front end?
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6 years since this shape of M4 launched, and I think it's not dated one bit. It's clean, but suitably aggressive.

I look back every time, I pop to the garage to just have a look at it most days, I love how it drives, it feels minimal enough to be focused, yet still comfortable enough to be usable.

Future classic?? I absolutely adore it.

Colin

I know you agree, but as a non-biased enthusiast, I believe the current M4 iteration is the best car aesthetically and performance-wise in the BMW lineup.

As you suggest, keep that baby. It is going to look better every day as BMW digresses along its current design path.

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      03-03-2020, 05:48 PM   #159
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Chunky looking rear and optimus prime design cues for the front. Did Michael Bay design this car?
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Yeah, it looks exactly like an Edsel. Or not.
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From my recent M4 Preview.
The remarkable thing is that presence is in abundance.
People always said that M cars were too tame. With the new 4 there was more opportunities to bring the appearance to a new era.

When you see both M3 and M4 you will see how more radical these cars are in regards to proportion, stance and in case of the M4 it's more dynamic profile allowing for its inclusion for Motorsport.
Definitely M4 has more muscle than a conventional M440i Coupe.

The new Aerodynmics offer a new interpretation of the current look that has been around for almost two decades. Again highly sculpted to provide function over form.

The new exclusive to the M3/M4 hood symbolises Motorsport history especially with Coupes adapted for Motorsport such as the E9,E30 and E24. The lines recessed at the top of the grille allows the bonnet to be higher when it runs along the centre of the car without resorting to a power dome.

The competition Wheel design was shown in a recent spy photograph of the M3.

Both M3 and M4 will cater to more performance and aerodyanmic appearance down the line of this generation.
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      03-03-2020, 06:04 PM   #162
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Next car maybe a c63s or Rs5. Hate to say it. Was trying to keep an open mind since the Alpha Romeo and Audi are not as bad with the chunky grill. After seeing several renders and leaks it just doesn't appeal to me.

This design reminds me when bmw did the radical bengal trunk design on the 7 series. The sales tanked. A year later they redesign the 7 to save the sales it seemed.

It's a big gamble they are going for on this car.

Time will tell.
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      03-03-2020, 06:10 PM   #163
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Next car maybe a c63s or Rs5. Hate to say it. Was trying to keep an open mind since the Alpha Romeo and Audi are not as bad with the chunky grill. After seeing several renders and leaks it just doesn't appeal to me.

This design reminds me when bmw did the radical bengal trunk design on the 7 series. The sales tanked. A year later they redesign the 7 to save the sales it seemed.

It's a big gamble they are going for on this car.

Time will tell.
Sales of the E65 were very good that they eclipsed sales of the E38 to make E65 the best selling 7er yet. It was hugely popular in Asia where it became the largest market.
The facelift for the 7er E65 actually came in early 2005 exactly half way through its Life Cycle. It was not facelifted early.

BMW Are no strangers to design controversy. And its malingned 2000's designs many which stand the test of time today.
The E85 Z4 is a good example. That car is perfect proportion wise and I am sorry that successive generations lose that seat-to-the-road feel and appearance E85 championed.
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Trying to find more lines in the new leaked picture:
  • bonnet indents/recesses
  • horizontal kidney slats
  • ///M3 badge (driver's side kidney - top)
  • diagonal design element integrated inside the lower intakes
  • front view camera between the kidneys
  • Park Distance Control sensors next to the air curtains
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From my recent M4 Preview.
The remarkable thing is that presence is in abundance.
People always said that M cars were too tame. With the new 4 there was more opportunities to bring the appearance to a new era.

When you see both M3 and M4 you will see how more radical these cars are in regards to proportion, stance and in case of the M4 it's more dynamic profile allowing for its inclusion for Motorsport.
Definitely M4 has more muscle than a conventional M440i Coupe.

The new Aerodynmics offer a new interpretation of the current look that has been around for almost two decades. Again highly sculpted to provide function over form.

The new exclusive to the M3/M4 hood symbolises Motorsport history especially with Coupes adapted for Motorsport such as the E9,E30 and E24. The lines recessed at the top of the grille allows the bonnet to be higher when it runs along the centre of the car without resorting to a power dome.

The competition Wheel design was shown in a recent spy photograph of the M3.

Both M3 and M4 will cater to more performance and aerodyanmic appearance down the line of this generation.

Nice to get a more comprehensive perspective. I personally like the sleeper looks of Mcars with smaller wheels and subtle touches, but I am open to a (more performance oriented look) in a darker color.

Scott, in your preview was the parking brake in the manual transmission a handbrake or push button? TIA.
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This design reminds me when bmw did the radical bengal trunk design on the 7 series. The sales tanked. A year later they redesign the 7 to save the sales it seemed.
While I agree that this new M4 is ugly, your quote about the 7-series is actually incorrect.

The 2002 model year marked the introduction of the E65 here in the US and the 2006 mode year being the refresh. Sales of most bangle model BMW's were actually higher than both their predecessors and successors, including the 7er before the refresh.
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Have a feeling this will look great in person, but that hood line is unfortunate
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My theory on the G80, it will be amazing due to Alfa Romeo upping the driving dynamics in the sedan market. BMW will be on a second generation of EPS steering and a manual transmission + 5 seats is extremely rare in today's market. People will get used to the looks and it will be a hit, despite the changes in design. Just my $.02
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You mean driving aggressively home and park it so no one seen the ugly vehicle?
Just drive it at night.
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Looking at the dimensions of the G80, it almost seems like the E46 grill could fit into the top half of the "kidney".

Definitely some aftermarket potential to correct this hideous thing.

Please forgive the 1 minute photoshop effort.
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Here it is with the perspective semi-corrected.

BTW, I drove next to one of the mules today on the PCH. The presence of the car is very buff and quite good looking. I think bpost will warm up to it when we see it in person.

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Here it is with the perspective semi-corrected.

BTW, I drove next to one of the mules today on the PCH. The presence of the car is very buff and quite good looking. I think bpost will warm up to it when we see it in person.

What's worse than a hood line?

A wavy zig-zag hood line.
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this is like a big foot sighting photo
To borrow from Mitch Hedberg, maybe the new G80 M3 is just blurry. It has nothing to do with the photography. Soon we'll be sharing the road with a bunch of blurry M3s with big grills.
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This is getting more and more hilarious. JTO24 where you at!?
I hope potato cam is distorting it big time lol still have hope!! We'll see...
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