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      05-06-2020, 11:13 AM   #2267
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May 6, 2020 Update

The G80 M3 continues testing on the Nurburgring, with multiple prototypes being tested simultaneously.

Spotted for the first time recently is a G80 M3 running with M Performance Exhaust. Here's how the standard exhaust tips compare to the M Performance Exhaust tips.

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May 6, 2020 Update

The G80 M3 continues testing on the Nurburgring, with multiple prototypes being tested simultaneously.

Spotted for the first time recently is a G80 M3 running with M Performance Exhaust. Here's how the standard exhaust tips compare to the M Performance Exhaust tips.

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It sounds good, and every time I see videos of it I admire its stability. Release this beast already.
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      05-06-2020, 01:47 PM   #2269
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The start of production is not until November, so it won't be at dealers until early next year.
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      05-06-2020, 01:52 PM   #2270
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It looks extremely fast, the M4 looks way sleeker than the M3!


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      05-06-2020, 02:39 PM   #2271
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Yes, I'm aware that the G20 and G80 are going to be different cars...but I just got a G20 as a loaner during service - holy shit - it's so big

Too big for a 3 series

It honestly feels like driving my parent's E60 5 series...no idea what BMW is thinking
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You have no idea what BMW is thinking? Well, their cars are as big as their competitors, so I don't know what exactly to accuse them of. For everybody else there is the M2.

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      05-07-2020, 08:00 AM   #2273
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Yes, I'm aware that the G20 and G80 are going to be different cars...but I just got a G20 as a loaner during service - holy shit - it's so big

Too big for a 3 series

It honestly feels like driving my parent's E60 5 series...no idea what BMW is thinking
It’s essentially the same size as the F30/F80 (3.5” longer and .5” Wider).
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Yes, I'm aware that the G20 and G80 are going to be different cars...but I just got a G20 as a loaner during service - holy shit - it's so big

Too big for a 3 series

It honestly feels like driving my parent's E60 5 series...no idea what BMW is thinking
The E60 is an extremely well packaged car with a lot of ALU in the chassis and in some ways actually feel smaller than the F80. It was design before the pedestrian regulations ruined the forward view by raising the frontal area. The 3 is no longer a compact car but that did not change with the G80. The E90 was borderline mid-size and the F80 move it fully into that category. The G80 seems to be similar to the F80 and will likely feel very similar in size.
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Yes, I'm aware that the G20 and G80 are going to be different cars...but I just got a G20 as a loaner during service - holy shit - it's so big

Too big for a 3 series

It honestly feels like driving my parent's E60 5 series...no idea what BMW is thinking
It’s essentially the same size as the F30/F80 (3.5” longer and .5” Wider).
Careful.....reason doesn't play well with hysteria.
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      05-07-2020, 11:23 AM   #2276
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It’s essentially the same size as the F30/F80 (3.5” longer and .5” Wider).
F30/F80 feels boaty when driving it too!
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F30/F80 feels boaty when driving it too!
Compared to an M2, maybe, but having driven my M3 on the track many times, I would not agree.
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Compared to an M2, maybe, but having driven my M3 on the track many times, I would not agree.
Driving them back to back at Thermal Performance Center...they are night and day different...

The M3/M4s felt very easy to drive...will give it that but I don't like how heavy they feel (while they still hide the excessive weight very well)
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You have to wonder what the world is going to look like when this car is launched. Unfortunately the world economy will likely be mostly ashes and it might take a couple of years after the vaccine is starting to be available some time next year to turn the ashes into new healthy growth.

It seems like the poor G8X will be launched at the very worst time when the depression is in full effect just before the vaccine is predicted to become available. I’ve tried to stay optimistic and take it day by day and I’m currently not worried about my own situation but if I make the math of the economy in general, ouch scary times coming and at that time will anyone including me actually prioritize a new luxury car purchase?

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You have to wonder what the world is going to look like when this car is launched. Unfortunately the world economy will likely be mostly ashes and it might take a couple of years after the vaccine is starting to be available some time next year to turn the ashes into new healthy growth.

It seems like the poor G8X will be launched at the very worst time when the depression is in full effect just before the vaccine is predicted to become available. I’ve tried to stay optimistic and take it day by day and I’m currently not worried about my own situation but if I make the math of the economy in general, ouch scary times coming and at that time will anyone including me actually prioritize a new luxury car purchase?
Most likely not!
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Another vid. Best one yet, for hearing the exhaust....IMO.

One of the mules seems to have a sunroof possibly?

Another has something covering the front grilles.



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Another vid. Best one yet, for hearing the exhaust....IMO.

One of the mules seems to have a sunroof possibly?

Another has something covering the front grilles.


Ok....you guys have to admit that car sounds really darn good and looks stable as hell at the limit.
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Sounds great! Handles great! We just need proper manual clips. I’m sick of hearing no gap between gears.
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How about some clips where we can hear some downshifts? Everything sounds good moving up but the fun stuff comes before and entering the turns.
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How about some clips where we can hear some downshifts? Everything sounds good moving up but the fun stuff comes before and entering the turns.
Although I'm buying an MT as always, I know many forum members are concerned about the automatic transmission's shift times. The shifts sound darn quick to me in these clips, so it would seem that the DCT camp might not have too much to worry about after BMW fine tunes the application for the G8X. I, too, would like to hear the automatic equipped car(s) accelerate out of a slow corner.
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Although I'm buying an MT as always, I know many forum members are concerned about the automatic transmission's shift times. The shifts sound darn quick to me in these clips, so it would seem that the DCT camp might not have too much to worry about after BMW fine tunes the application for the G8X. I, too, would like to hear the automatic equipped car(s) accelerate out of a slow corner.
It's not about how fast the downshifts happen. It's about *when* they happen. As you say, this all depends on whether BMW fine tunes the application to respond to driver inputs, or to change gear whenever it feels like (e.g. up-shifting when you lift off the gas, or mid-apex!)

Applying your arguments about 'who is the typical customer' for these cars, I can only imagine that this won't be set up for the few people who like the instantaneous shifts of a good DCT, but want to make their own gear choices. e.g. in those videos I don't hear a whole lot of aggressive downshifting under braking, I'm hearing occasional downshifts on the exit of the turn. (e.g. one around 0:35 seconds)
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Although I'm buying an MT as always, I know many forum members are concerned about the automatic transmission's shift times. The shifts sound darn quick to me in these clips, so it would seem that the DCT camp might not have too much to worry about after BMW fine tunes the application for the G8X. I, too, would like to hear the automatic equipped car(s) accelerate out of a slow corner.
It's not about how fast the downshifts happen. It's about *when* they happen. As you say, this all depends on whether BMW fine tunes the application to respond to driver inputs, or to change gear whenever it feels like (e.g. up-shifting when you lift off the gas, or mid-apex!)

Applying your arguments about 'who is the typical customer' for these cars, I can only imagine that this won't be set up for the few people who like the instantaneous shifts of a good DCT, but want to make their own gear choices. e.g. in those videos I don't hear a whole lot of aggressive downshifting under braking, I'm hearing occasional downshifts on the exit of the turn. (e.g. one around 0:35 seconds)
Maybe those portions of the 'Ring don't require aggressive downshifts. I'm not sure having never driven it. I remain hopeful for the DCT crowd.
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