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07-27-2020, 10:59 AM | #179 |
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I don't understand why they are talking about the front axle so much. That's something that could be rectified with camber plates and proper tires on the F80.
My priorities with the G80 would have been: 1. more mechanical grip for the rear axle 2. less total weight of the car (improves dynamics) 3. better / longer lasting brakes on the front (cooling?) without the need to resort to carbon ceramics |
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07-27-2020, 11:06 AM | #180 | |
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I'm not complaining at all, but for my part once people starting putting cheap aftermarket parts on their cars it's time for me to get something else. Nothing against high quality customizing tho. But we going off topic... As for my part, I probably will get the G80 once it will be available. |
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07-27-2020, 11:26 AM | #181 | |
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I was watching a Q&A with Jason Cammisa (Auto Journalist and previous BMW enthusiast) and he was speaking about how the F30's front end was so weak that M refused to make an M car out of it with that structure. At the 1:11:10 mark in the video.
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07-27-2020, 12:26 PM | #183 | |
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It's not like the Cars have gotten worse. Everyone that has actually driven the G8x says the steering and handling are better than in the F Series. G being faster than F is a given. Less pure? Sure. Worse? Nah. But then again i'm a sucker for new gadgets and developments. It's amazing how the Cars keep getting safer and have a wider working range while still bein faster than their predecessors. |
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07-27-2020, 12:32 PM | #184 |
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You feel the extra 220 pounds in day to day driving? Screw a 6th sense, that's like 10th sense right there. I'm going to be blunt with you. What you're 'feeling' is all in your head. There is no way you will feel an extra 220 pounds in your car driving it day in and day out. The F8x is already such a porker that you'll feel the weight of the car WAY before you feel the extra weight of a passenger.
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07-27-2020, 12:42 PM | #185 | |
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Three truly fast cars. -Camaro ZL1 -Corvette Z06 -Nissan GT-R Here’s a sentence from a ZL1 test: “Instead, for just a moment, fixate on our measurement of the Camaro’s maximum lateral acceleration: 1.18 g’s. That kind of steady-state grip puts the 1LE in an elite group. Indeed, there’s only one car we’ve measured with more stick and that’s the Corvette Z06 equipped with the Z07 package (1.19 g’s). Everything else lets go sooner, period.” So what do these two have that cars as the GT-R and 911 GT3 do not that allow for this grip? Mainly massive front tires, both sport 285s while the other two 255 and 245. Looking at the GT-R it’s well known that it’s AWD system is one of the main keys to it’s relative blistering track performance. The new M3/M4 is going for both these advantages in one go and I think it will be an animal in terms of performance. And I suspect that many people here that promise to skip it will be seduced by it. |
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But this time around if they include camber adjustment, fit sufficient tires (sizes), and brakes that don't turn to butter, no complaints. If they are uprating the front axle traciton, then they must have found ways to manage the rear end (other than M xDrive since rwd is on offer), increase mechanical grip. Didn't find the F90 to understeer on track, incredibly. Driven at short of 10/10ths, but turn in was very strong considering.
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I don't get all the hate. The guy is smiling and likes the car, but he isn't a marketeer, he looks like an engineer
To all the haters, good luck with your 100k base 992 amish edition or your 4000lb C63 AMG |
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Exactly many has the idea that they hate the new car and are now just looking for things to whine about. If you are paying attention to what he actually says it should make you really excited about the performance of these cars and not get hung up on the mechanical German to English voice over or that he is wearing racing gloves or try to find negatives from what he isn’t saying...
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I agree though, he's a technical guy, the ///M VP of Engineering, not a marketeer and he is being factual about the car. It's the same guy that made this M4cs technical video:
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3800 lbs sounds dramatic, with so many different weight standards and base equipment levels a relative weight difference should be more valuable. Im guessing the RWD G8X with the same equipment level will be within 150 lbs of the F8X. No disaster. It also seems likely well get some lightweight options as chairs not available on the F8X to narrow the gap.
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Just because I sit a lot in traffic does not mean I don't value my experience with the car off the traffic and on the backroads or track, where these cars are meant to be driven. When the M engineers tell you that AWD is still "pressure heavy" in their promotion videos, you know it's a heavy car. I hope this car turns out to be good. I really do. It is just saddening to hear they are starting out with some clearly inferior hardware components when it comes to sporty driving, which leaves many of us doubtful of that outcome.
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