[mirob]

Originally Posted by WWM3

There will definitely be updated headlights. How do you know what BMW is updating? All we have seen thus far is a 4 series LCI mule. We have no idea what BMW has in store. It could be more significant than DRLs given the long lifecycle of this car.

How do you? We're all speculating at this point but if history is any indication, you're priming yourself for disappointment.

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by mirob

How do you? We're all speculating at this point but if history is any indication, you're priming yourself for disappointment.

I don’t know - that was my point. And, I didn’t portend to know or make an assumption that it was just DRLs. Further, we just saw some pretty significant LCIs with the X5 M and X3 M. I think it’s anyone’s guess.

[mirob]

Originally Posted by WWM3

I don’t know - that was my point. And, I didn’t portend to know or make an assumption that it was just DRLs.

I made an assumption based on the available evidence (i.e., 4-series spy shots).

Originally Posted by WWM3

But in this instance, a power bump and updated looks are right around the corner.

This read like a matter-of-fact statement to me but maybe I misinterpreted it. My bad.

Originally Posted by WWM3

Further, we just saw some pretty significant LCIs with the X5 M and X3 M. I think it’s anyone’s guess.

Never say never, I suppose.

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by mirob

Never say never, I suppose.

I don’t think the 4er spy shots have much relevance except for seeing the new headlights. As I said, we have yet to see a G8X LCI, but when we do we will know more. And, my comments were pretty general -“updated looks.” Finally, my first M3 was a 2008 E90. Things are different now so I’m not equating the situations. But either way, I’m familiar with how an LCI can change the look of an M in a big way and help improve resale value (a negative for me).

['Cane]

Originally Posted by WWM3

Another reason to wait: the G80 is long in the tooth now. The E90 and F80 only had a three year lifecycle. The G80’s production life is so long that another CS type model will be produced. I’d wait for the update.

They were both 4 year lifecycles;
E90 - ‘08, ‘09, ‘10, ‘11
F80 - ‘15, ‘16, ‘17, ‘18

And, G80 has been in production for 3 model years, with probably 2+ more, wouldn’t say that’s necessarily “long in the tooth”.

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

They were both 4 year lifecycles;
E90 - ‘08, ‘09, ‘10, ‘11
F80 - ‘15, ‘16, ‘17, ‘18

And, G80 has been in production for 3 model years, with probably 2+ more, wouldn’t say that’s necessarily “long in the tooth”.

Thanks for the correction. I quickly thought 8-11 and 15-18 and incorrectly surmised three years for each.

However, it’s starting to feel that way to me. The 2024s start production very shortly. It feels like it should be approaching the end of its lifecycle. The LCI feels overdue. Just IMO of course!

['Cane]

Originally Posted by WWM3

Thanks for the correction. I quickly thought 8-11 and 15-18 and incorrectly surmised three years for each.

However, it’s starting to feel that way to me. The 2024s start production very shortly. It feels like it should be approaching the end of its lifecycle. The LCI feels overdue. Just IMO of course!

I wouldn’t say the LCI is overdue, it’s coming for MY’25, and that will be LCI #2, just like the F80 had two.

[m3wannab]

Is there any information of what changes are coming for MY24? Or is it basically a carry over from MY23

['Cane]

Originally Posted by m3wannab

Is there any information of what changes are coming for MY24? Or is it basically a carry over from MY23

MY’24 G80 is a carryover from ‘23. MY’24 G82/G83 has been updated with iD8. MY’25 will be the next LCI, and there hasn’t been any official announcement, nor will there be for quite a while.

[m3wannab]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

MY’24 G80 is a carryover from ‘23. MY’24 G82/G83 has been updated with iD8. MY’25 will be the next LCI, and there hasn’t been any official announcement, nor will there be for quite a while.

I wonder if the LCI G80 will have the rumored power bump for the Xdrive or hopefully it will be for the MY’24

['Cane]

No change in HP for ‘24, G82 is already in MY’24.

[Indo Rider]

What are the chances the the ECU will be different in later model years and not unlockable via whatever process Fempto has working now?

[bmwdrive]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

I wouldn’t say the LCI is overdue, it’s coming for MY’25, and that will be LCI #2, just like the F80 had two.

Is the LCI #2 F80 holding its value better than pre-LCI? More so than just the fact that it's a year newer with fewer miles? I've only taken a brief look and asking prices seem to be inline with the miles and age of the car. I think the M2 vs. M2 Comp shows a significant difference in price, but not sure about the F80 where the changes were more minor afaik.

[suffer]

Originally Posted by bmwd

Is the LCI #2 F80 holding its value better than pre-LCI? More so than just the fact that it's a year newer with fewer miles? I've only taken a brief look and asking prices seem to be inline with the miles and age of the car. I think the M2 vs. M2 Comp shows a significant difference in price, but not sure about the F80 where the changes were more minor afaik.

The M2 and the M2 Comp may as well be different cars. There's going to be a huge divide in price there, but the LCIs are fairly minor compared to an entire engine upgrade and more than the M2 Comp got.

['Cane]

Originally Posted by bmwd

Is the LCI #2 F80 holding its value better than pre-LCI? More so than just the fact that it's a year newer with fewer miles? I've only taken a brief look and asking prices seem to be inline with the miles and age of the car. I think the M2 vs. M2 Comp shows a significant difference in price, but not sure about the F80 where the changes were more minor afaik.

The LCI has no impact on the value of the car, it’s really only year/condition/mileage. Both LCIs on the F80 were fairly minimal though, with almost no impact to appearance aside from headlights and taillights. Based on what BMW has done with G20 3 Series, X3/4, and X5/6, I’m expecting some additional updates to G8X, but we’ll have to wait and see.

[Rh6363]

What are the chances we don’t see 6mt in lci?

[G80indy]

Not crazy about those new headlights….. so…….

[YYYQQQ]

actually, I will get my MY24 M3 in this month.

[geko29]

Originally Posted by Rh6363

What are the chances we don’t see 6mt in lci?

Very close to zero, but we should know within a week or so. January allocations for March production (which will be MY25 for the M4) are due any day now, and they will have to publish the order guide by then.

If there were big changes like dropping an entire model (the M4 base), that should have been communicated by now.

[geko29]

Originally Posted by geko29

Very close to zero, but we should know within a week or so. January allocations for March production (which will be MY25 for the M4) are due any day now, and they will have to publish the order guide by then.

If there were big changes like dropping an entire model (the M4 base), that should have been communicated by now.

Correcting my own post. Calbears just confirmed that January allocations were released last week. So folks have already ordered 2025 M4s, and we've heard nothing about the base 6MT being dropped.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by geko29

Correcting my own post. Calbears just confirmed that January allocations were released last week. So folks have already ordered 2025 M4s, and we've heard nothing about the base 6MT being dropped.

Huh? January allocations are not for model year 2025.

[geko29]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Huh? January allocations are not for model year 2025.

Yes they are. January allocations are for March builds. Production of MY2024 M4s ends in February. Production of MY2025 M4s begins in March. Ergo, January allocations for M4 builds will be MY2025 cars.

Here is the current production schedule as of December 2023, which can be found here:

Feb 2024:
G80 M3 CS end of production;
G82 M4 end of production;
March 2024:
G82 M4 LCI start of production;
G83 M4 start of production;
July 2024:
G80 M3 LCI #2 start of production;
G82 M4 CS start of production;
G83 M4 start of production;
Aug 2024: G87 M2 'changeover' (475ps + added colors);
March 2025:
G87 M2 end of production (cf. G42 2er Coupé end of production);
G81 M3 CS Touring start of production;
April 2025: G87 M2 LCI start of production (cf. G42 2er Coupé LCI start of production);
June 2025: G82 M4 CS end of production;
Aug 2025: G87 M2 CS start of production;
Feb 2026: G81 M3 CS Touring end of production;
July 2026: G87 M2 CS end of production;
Feb 2027: G80 M3 LCI #2 end of production;
Oct 2027: G81 M3 Touring (Competition xDrive) end of production;
June 2028:
G82 M4 LCI end of production;
G83 M4 end of production;
July 2029: G87 M2 LCI end of production.