[clee1982]

Originally Posted by Tornado1M

Is this so hard? Honestly!

Can they just make this?

Well the bottom part is probably not pediatricians safe...

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Tornado1M

Is this so hard? Honestly!

Can they just make this?

That's going to be more like the next ///M2

[Fuller]

When the new 4, m3, etc are finally unveiled, I think the vertical grills will end up looking perfectly fine and integrated into the overall design language. They're going to be larger and more prominent than we're accustomed to, but I think they will look good in the end.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

That's going to be more like the next ///M2

BMW will still find a way to butcher it, especially since the car is still in concept form that wouldn't likely comply with safety standards. My expectations of BMW's design team just get ever increasingly lower as more and more of the new M3/4-Series gets leaked/revealed.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Fuller

When the new 4, m3, etc are finally unveiled, I think the vertical grills will end up looking perfectly fine and integrated into the overall design language. They're going to be larger and more prominent than we're accustomed to, but I think they will look good in the end.

Hopefully you're right.

There are lots of pissed off people, not liking this new kidney grill design trend.

[JTO24]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Hopefully you're right.

There are lots of pissed off people, not liking this new kidney grill design trend.

Yea, and it's quite annoying to hear them complain all the time about it.

I can't wait for these cars to be revealed already so we can move past the grill issue and get to better, more interesting conversation.

[SteveinArizona]

I read an interview with BMW's head designer in Car Magazine. When discussing the new 4 series grill he said:

"With the kidney, we made a big difference, which is on one hand very BMW, but different to all our other cars. The first kidneys were always vertical -- it happened with the 328 or even more recently the E28 5-series. For this core product, the 4-series, we wanted to make something that doesn't feel like just a coupe for those who can't afford an 8-series."

My translation: If you want taste, pay $130K for an 8 series; if you don't have taste, or can't afford BMW's version of taste, then pay $70K for a butt ugly coupe. If that is the direction that BMW is going...my 2018 5 series will be my last BMW.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by JTO24

Yea, and it's quite annoying to hear them complain all the time about it.

I can't wait for these cars to be revealed already so we can move past the grill issue and get to better, more interesting conversation.

I was kind of hoping that by Christmas we would be at Stage 5 or 6?

Seriously when it is properly unveiled I think people are going to love this new look? A strong powerful presence backed up with serious athleticism with the M440i. With any new BMW the media are in most cases leading the discussion about the other attributes rather than bold and disicive aesthetics.

The new 4 will have aesthetics in many of its opening chapters.
They might be negative or they might actually resolve to accommodate - finally acceptance.

And then we will have the first in a series of M4 models which will really bring it higher.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by joshuastein55

BMW will still find a way to butcher it, especially since the car is still in concept form that wouldn't likely comply with safety standards. My expectations of BMW's design team just get ever increasingly lower as more and more of the new M3/4-Series gets leaked/revealed.

I find THE 2 will be the concept that blends more elements of a classical BMW entry-Coupe into its design form. Not overly retro but using some classical inspiration. It's positioning of the central,taller but not full facia Kidney Grille owes more to these ideas.

[SukSqueezeBangBlo]

I don't have photos but I believe the new m3 is driving around Hermosa Beach CA. There must be a BMW tester who lives in the area, I alway see him driving new camo'd BMW's.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Mattgfx

I don't have photos but I believe the new m3 is driving around Hermosa Beach CA. There must be a BMW tester who lives in the area, I alway see him driving new camo'd BMW's.

I believe it. Port Hueneme isn't far and they have a big BMW R&D location there. I've seen lots of camo'd BMW's throughout the years in SoCal.

[roastbeef]

what a pile of hot garbage.

[jinnrice]

Shit the grill going to be that huge...

[sq86]

That's going to be an ugly beaver. The profile looks good though. Keeping the camo on it would be the best way to be scene in one.

[PAC]

Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

I read an interview with BMW's head designer in Car Magazine. When discussing the new 4 series grill he said:

"With the kidney, we made a big difference, which is on one hand very BMW, but different to all our other cars. The first kidneys were always vertical -- it happened with the 328 or even more recently the E28 5-series. For this core product, the 4-series, we wanted to make something that doesn't feel like just a coupe for those who can't afford an 8-series."

My translation: If you want taste, pay $130K for an 8 series; if you don't have taste, or can't afford BMW's version of taste, then pay $70K for a butt ugly coupe. If that is the direction that BMW is going...my 2018 5 series will be my last BMW.

My M2 will be my last unless I get an E92 at some point and store it. Back to VAG for me.

[SCOTT26]

Your M440i Coupe awaits...

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Your M440i Coupe awaits...

No thank you...

[solstice]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Your M440i Coupe awaits...

Yes please, but that’s just the concept 4 with other wheels and color right?

Either way, its perfect including the great wheels and color! I’ll take one just like it in M4 version.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by solstice

Yes please, but that's just the concept 4 with other wheels and color right?

I have a feeling that's pretty close to what it'll look like albeit with different wheels. I like it!

[xlover]

Originally Posted by solstice

Yes please, but that's just the concept 4 with other wheels and color right?

Looks like just a photo shop of the concept in blue...

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by xlover

Looks like just a photo shop of the concept in blue...

Yes it is a rendering. But Look closer and you can see that it is very much closer to the production model, especially the front which incorporates actual production elements such as the higher bonnet line with separate nose cone and it has an actual B-Pillar.
It's around 90-95% of what you are going to get.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Yes it is a rendering. But Look closer and you can see that it is very much closer to the production model, especially the front which incorporates actual production elements such as the higher bonnet line with separate nose cone and it has an actual B-Pillar.
It's around 90-95% of what you are going to get.

Yep! They aren't looking close enough at the details. It's looking good.