[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by stormchaser

Fantastic feedback. Hey, can you notice the ride quality improvements in Comfort mode? I have rented 3 series many times and always felt they were a tad stiff especially the 4 series for some reason. On my test drive the car did not feel overly stiff (Non M sport). Thoughts on this change? Noticeable?

Rental BMW's have the standard (Sport) suspension which is stiff and uncomfortable.

But if you buy a car with the Adaptive M Suspension, yes, Comfort mode is noticeably refined and more, well, comfortable. It has dampers that adjust the ride on-demand from firmer to softer. It also has technology that senses the road conditions and adjusts the dampers to compensate for bumps, grooves, and potholes. Flipping the switch from Sport to Comfort is an amazing experience. Comfort mode is for the wife and kids who get nauseous in the BMW standard (Sport) suspension. Note that the Adaptive M is a completely different suspension from the other two. It's not some add-on.

If you have a car without the Adaptive M Suspension, putting the car in Comfort mode doesn't change the ride at all as it has no damper control. Comfort in a non-Adaptive M car only changes throttle response and shift points. The wife and kids will still get nauseous.

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by zazzau

Sounds good but my pre LCI (MY21) feels so smooth as-is: I've even forgotten about Auto-Start-Stop. Only when I read threads like this do I remember it's always on. How much gas this tech really saves is debatable.

It saves a ton of gas if you put it in ECO PRO, because it will shut off the engine while coasting. The biggest issue with that, though, is that it puts more pressure on the brakes and less on engine braking.

[zazzau]

Originally Posted by madpistol

It saves a ton of gas if you put it in ECO PRO, because it will shut off the engine while coasting. The biggest issue with that, though, is that it puts more pressure on the brakes and less on engine braking.

How do you define a ton of gas though? And how are you calculating it? I'm just curious.

I am in ADAPTIVE drive mode 95% of the time; the car coasts in this mode when the conditions are met. But most of my routes aren't coastable. So I think this is all subjective.

[Eric_M328i]

Originally Posted by madpistol

It saves a ton of gas if you put it in ECO PRO, because it will shut off the engine while coasting. The biggest issue with that, though, is that it puts more pressure on the brakes and less on engine braking.

Originally Posted by zazzau

How do you define a ton of gas though? And how are you calculating it? I'm just curious.

I am in ADAPTIVE drive mode 95% of the time; the car coasts in this mode when the conditions are met. But most of my routes aren't coastable. So I think this is all subjective.

If im on a longer drive I cant stand eco pro and I think comfort and eco pro are not far off in savings, as comfort also upshifts a lot in lower speeds and coasts.

Eco tries to squeeze every last but of mpg and coasts the car even more and weakens the AC but you also get ABYSMAL throttle response…

At least In comfort you can downshift and overtake if you need to without the need to switch to sport everytime.

For example I got 36mpg on comfort mode only in my M340i yesterday on a 100 mile highway drive. I dont think eco would dramatically make that better.

Regarding auto start stop its not smooth at all for me.

[zazzau]

Originally Posted by Eric_M328i

If im on a longer drive I cant stand eco pro and I think comfort and eco pro are not far off in savings, as comfort also upshifts a lot in lower speeds and coasts.

Eco tries to squeeze every last but of mpg and coasts the car even more and weakens the AC but you also get ABYSMAL throttle response…

At least In comfort you can downshift and overtake if you need to without the need to switch to sport everytime.

For example I got 36mpg on comfort mode only in my M340i yesterday on a 100 mile highway drive. I dont think eco would dramatically make that better.

Regarding auto start stop its not smooth at all for me.

Agreed. I don't think there's going to be an earth-shattering differnce in gas milage between ECO and COMFORT.

Sucks that yours isn't smooth. With mine it's barely noticable. What year is your M340 and what software version?

[Eric_M328i]

Originally Posted by zazzau

Agreed. I don't think there's going to be an earth-shattering differnce in gas milage between ECO and COMFORT.

Sucks that yours isn't smooth. With mine it's barely noticable. What year is your M340 and what software version?

I have LCI MY 23 and software version is 03/2024.40.

Its good yours works as designed but yes unfortunately like many others its annoying for me.

The auto start is smooth when turning off but the problem is the delayed restart which also results in a hesitation by the car. You feel the car jerk forward slightly.
Also when parking at low speeds it just randomly turns off before you’re done parking.

Iv heard the new update adds the digital button so lets see.

[zlatko]

Originally Posted by Eric_M328i

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Iv heard the new update adds the digital button so lets see.

What do you mean by that?

[Eric_M328i]

Originally Posted by zlatko

What do you mean by that?

Iv seen a few posts mentioned here and mostly of other series bmws that already have it. (https://www.7post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2127184)

One of the latest updates 07/2024 I believe adds a digital auto start stop Disable button to the idrive 8 menu.

Whether the M340s or G2X chassis will get this button im not sure yet.

[zlatko]

I updated to 07/2024 a month ago, but not ASS deactivate button appeared in shortcuts :\

[stormchaser]

Originally Posted by hatak

B58 tu2 problems

test drove the 330I

[stormchaser]

Originally Posted by hrf

Technically G20 is made similar to G30. New 3 series will look like new 5 and this is the reason I am getting G20 now. I hate look of new BMW with all my heart, so not looking for new 3 series when it comes out. I like BMWs engines, suspension, reasonably priced, but in the last 20 years only few were well designed, F10, G30, G20, new x5 and 8 series, the rest are very bad looking cars, including all M3s and M4s. I trend to value cliassic BMW design and hate the bangle era when all start to change to worse. I would never in my life buy unproportional looking car, which most BMWs today are. New M5 is a heavy bad looking joke.

I agree 100%. Love the G30 I own but now still considering the G20 as it's a great classic look with many features. FYI- Just rented a new 5 series (Sixt) and while I hate the new looks and interior, the car is very comfortable (The best standard seats of many cars I have driven). The actual MPG is good also. While BMW is making things uglier, and cockpits cheaper (Lots of plastic) the actual technology (MPG, Re tuning of engines, and comfort -if that is what you want) isn't all that bad. I will report back after my 6-hour drive tomorrow on the new G60.

[LostInSpace]

It's difficult for me to contemplate dropping 70k on a vehicle that's ugly with lots of plastic, and isn't all that bad.