[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by KANdaddy

That the rear passenger doors don’t have a button to lock/unlock. Am I missing something?

Just pull the handle. If child locks are on, it won't open.

[luckylingy]

Originally Posted by beden1

I just returned from a 1,800 round trip from SE Florida to middle Alabama via highways and rural 2 lane and 4 lane mountainous roads during daylight and nighttime hours. I have the laser lights, and I have to say, I'm not really impressed. Unless there is some setting I missed, they don't fill the lanes with light from side-to-side nor do they amply light what's ahead beyond 3-4 car lengths. I've had other generations of BMWs that did much better jobs than my M4, and countless other cars including Chevy Vettes and Porsches, etc.

It may be that the light from the heads-up display on the windshield is taking away from the flooding light of the headlamps, but even so, I found the lights to be inadequate, especially given the cost of the upgrade! Am I missing something?

I replaced a G05 X5 with LEDs with an M4 with lasers. IMHO, there's not that much difference between the two.

My first 5 miles each morning are in total darkness (countryside with zero traffic) on an arrow-straight road on gently rolling terrain. Fresh asphalt this past summer and new reflectors installed every 200' early this month. If the moon's in hiding, it's a perfect headlamp test. I easily see reflectors about a mile out and fairly strong, even illumination for 500' or more.

Here are 3 shots from early this morning. The area is dense with deer, which keeps my speed in check. The high beams pick up their eyes' reflections or their roadside movements with ample distance to brake (to a standstill, if necessary). Problem is when they cross the road at a full run from far afield. Tapped one at low speed with our Jeep a year ago that way.

[KANdaddy]

Originally Posted by M3macster

Just pull the handle. If child locks are on, it won't open.

But what if you’re a passenger and need to lock the door for some reason?

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by KANdaddy

But what if you’re a passenger and need to lock the door for some reason?

My doors lock automatically at 5 or 10 mph. I haven't ridden in the back - are there not little nobs to push down to lock the car manually? Interesting little situation if not

[geko29]

Originally Posted by M3macster

I haven't ridden in the back - are there not little nobs to push down to lock the car manually? Interesting little situation if not

There absolutely are:

[KANdaddy]

Originally Posted by M3macster

My doors lock automatically at 5 or 10 mph. I haven't ridden in the back - are there not little nobs to push down to lock the car manually? Interesting little situation if not

There are but call me paranoid, I’m thinking of situations where maybe your child is in the back and needed to lock the door to prevent a stranger entering the car. It’s the times we live in I guess. Guess I’ll have to show them how to use the push down lock. Regardless, I just found it interesting there was no push button mechanism like most cars.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by KANdaddy

There are but call me paranoid, I’m thinking of situations where maybe your child is in the back and needed to lock the door to prevent a stranger entering the car. It’s the times we live in I guess. Guess I’ll have to show them how to use the push down lock. Regardless, I just found it interesting there was no push button mechanism like most cars.

I don't remember a lock or unlock button the back seat of any German car we've owned. Where do you see these?

[Joachim]

Originally Posted by KANdaddy

Guess I’ll have to show them how to use the push down lock.

Do it! Kids are very receptive about these things and can surprisingly handle such instructions in an "adult way", proud to do something in dad's car autonomously and responsively, if needed.

[beden1]

Originally Posted by luckylingy

I replaced a G05 X5 with LEDs with an M4 with lasers. IMHO, there's not that much difference between the two.

My first 5 miles each morning are in total darkness (countryside with zero traffic) on an arrow-straight road on gently rolling terrain. Fresh asphalt this past summer and new reflectors installed every 200' early this month. If the moon's in hiding, it's a perfect headlamp test. I easily see reflectors about a mile out and fairly strong, even illumination for 500' or more.

Here are 3 shots from early this morning. The area is dense with deer, which keeps my speed in check. The high beams pick up their eyes' reflections or their roadside movements with ample distance to brake (to a standstill, if necessary). Problem is when they cross the road at a full run from far afield. Tapped one at low speed with our Jeep a year ago that way.

Mine must not be adjusted properly because I didn't see anywhere near that well in front or sides of the roadways. Thanks for sharing the pictures.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Break in service done today.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Ya this thing is ridiculous...

[geko29]

Originally Posted by M3macster

I don't remember a lock or unlock button the back seat of any German car we've owned. Where do you see these?

Our Q7 has them, but lock button only:

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by geko29

Our Q7 has them, but lock button only:

Audi Q7 is GREAT with kids. I loved the electric child lock buttons that are on the drivers side door ...BMW could learn a thing or two

[DO444]

Originally Posted by Flying05

The M brand and all of the badging with it is so watered down. I mean shit, WTF, why do you have an M60 or whatever it is for an X7? A freakin massive SUV. Ridiculous. That's one thing I liked about my 911. A 911 is a 911. Now granted you could add an S badge or GTS, whatever, but didn't ever see that in the P car.

My wife will see an M350 whatever bmw and ask, is that a real M like yours. Most non bmw/car enthusiasts have no clue, but we do. I can guarantee that the person who owns the M badged car knows that it's not a true M car as well as their wallet. It's crap but is what it is. BMW marketing at its best.

Unfortunately BMW realized they could charge a lot more for a car if they stuck M on it, so they do. The M badging now just means go fast, for most cars…

You hit the nail on the head, BMW marketing got the better of everyone with that decision.

Would have made a lot more sense if BMW had some delineation like audi does, S and RS.

Instead they just tacked M on everything watering down the icon for anyone who cares. Silly thing to do, but I think that’s part of why people say BMW keeps shooting itself in it’s own foot.

They’ve made strange decisions of late.
Would have been so much better if they didn’t make it exactly the same, even a slight delineation between the actual M cars and M-lite would have preserved the entire ecology of the cars and made the M-lite cars more attractive to me.

Who wants to purposefully pay to be a poseur?
It’s weird, and I’m not kicking M-lite cars. They are very good cars. It’s just you are stuck with that now. If you want a 340i, a nice i6 3 series… you can’t get one without that badging and that’s silly.

Every time an M3 and an m340i show up at the same spot, this is what everyone is thinking, and it’s no one’s fault but BMW marketing. Unforced error on BMW’s part cause the 340i is already a good car and doesn’t really need upbadging imo.

Or, maybe I have no idea what I’m talking about and no one would buy a 340i without that M on it, besides me.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by DO444

Unfortunately BMW realized they could charge a lot more for a car if they stuck M on it, so they do. The M badging now just means go fast, for most cars…

You hit the nail on the head, BMW marketing got the better of everyone with that decision.

Would have made a lot more sense if BMW had some delineation like audi does, S and RS.

Instead they just tacked M on everything watering down the icon for anyone who cares. Silly thing to do, but I think that’s part of why people say BMW keeps shooting itself in it’s own foot.

They’ve made strange decisions of late.
Would have been so much better if they didn’t make it exactly the same, even a slight delineation between the actual M cars and M-lite would have preserved the entire ecology of the cars and made the M-lite cars more attractive to me.

Who wants to purposefully pay to be a poseur?
It’s weird, and I’m not kicking M-lite cars. They are very good cars. It’s just you are stuck with that now. If you want a 340i, a nice i6 3 series… you can’t get one without that badging and that’s silly.

Every time an M3 and an m340i show up at the same spot, this is what everyone is thinking, and it’s no one’s fault but BMW marketing. Unforced error on BMW’s part cause the 340i is already a good car and doesn’t really need upbadging imo.

Or, maybe I have no idea what I’m talking about and no one would buy a 340i without that M on it, besides me.

I agree with most of this, but the m340i is a pretty bland looking car, especially from the back.

[DO444]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

I agree with most of this, but the m340i is a pretty bland looking car, especially from the back.

I agree with that too.
I prefer my back end, non M, 340i.
I love the tail lights in the LCI and I prefer cylinder exhaust, not the body form tetragonal shape.

[T0RM3NT]

I learned a lot about what the car can do from this dude...hilarious really. Looks like he fully enjoys the G80! I hope you guys enjoy the video as much as I did.

[JDUNITNOW]

Originally Posted by T0RM3NT

I learned a lot about what the car can do from this dude...hilarious really. Looks like he fully enjoys the G80! I hope you guys enjoy the video as much as I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRT1jCpz7vM

Saw this yesterday and laughed my ass off.

[jummo]

I discovered that my M3CX is absolutely stunning in the snow. Away from a stop, it lets the rears spin for just a moment and then hooks up as best it can which is more than enough.
Deliberately provoked, it will let you kick out the back end just a bit and maintain a shallow slip angle without intervening.
I am quite concerned about a big chink of ice landing in front of me and have decided to invest in the Turner skid plate.
Ground clearance and the vulnerability of the oil cooler seem to be the primary limitations.
Otherwise, bring it on.

[DO444]

Originally Posted by KANdaddy

But what if you’re a passenger and need to lock the door for some reason?

Is the door lock button no longer on the center console stack, only on the driver door?

Used to be on the center console stack under the screen.

[geko29]

Originally Posted by DO444

Is the door lock button no longer on the center console stack, only on the driver door?

Used to be on the center console stack under the screen.

From reading the 2023 owner's manual, yes. The central button is one of the ones deleted with iDrive 8. However from some listings I'm seeing, it looks like it's actually on both front doors, not just the driver side.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by DO444

Is the door lock button no longer on the center console stack, only on the driver door?

Used to be on the center console stack under the screen.

It's been gone from the center on most models for several years