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...all of which just underlines my purchase of a 2018 340 ZHP as the last new BMW I'll buy. Mind you, it's SO good I suspect I'll keep it until they come for my keys!
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11-30-2018, 03:09 PM | #50 |
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Filling it with that rare and overpriced stinky burner fluid will be a bitch though...
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11-30-2018, 03:25 PM | #51 |
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11-30-2018, 03:26 PM | #52 |
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11-30-2018, 03:32 PM | #53 | |
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If it's an E90 maybe not ... but the 340 is really sweet and 355 horse is plenty... |
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11-30-2018, 03:36 PM | #54 | |
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If you have 82 M3s and only 2 are manuals, wouldn't it stand to reason that the manuals have nearly all been claimed and the DCT remains by a 40/1 ratio? It's easier for a dealer to order a DCT, so they do. We still know a considerable amount of people (more than the 40/1 ratio above) will special order their BMW with a manual because it's the single most important option on their car. That's true for me at least... |
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11-30-2018, 03:48 PM | #55 |
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I don't get all the goo ga at the auto companies. Rather than selling the automatic as the more expensive option due to it better technical performance, just sell the manual as the higher cost special order due to its class and enthusiast community. For some time already, it's no longer about absolute top performance but more about personality. We all want to drive to work in f1 cars every day? I guess not.
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11-30-2018, 03:49 PM | #56 | |
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11-30-2018, 04:06 PM | #58 | |
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I personally don't find a manual transmission to even be that much more engaging, granted the only MT vehicle I've driven is a pretty shitty example of an E39 528i. Sure it was neat, but anytime I've driven spiritedly, it's not like shifting happens that much anyway. My friends that do autox stick to one, maybe 2 gears the entire race. Drag racing you row through gears for about 10 seconds. Drifting is also pretty much stuck in 2nd/3rd for most cars. The truth is, most MT driving is done on regular roads where 99.9% of people don't care whatsoever about being "engaged" with their vehicle, and while I see why so many people love their MT vehicles, it doesn't change the fact that nearly everyone I go to school with that are in the school car club (some of whom made claims that they will always drive manuals) has bought cheap dailies (a few hundred dollar 80s/90s cars) and they are ALL automatics. tl;dr very few people young will care about hydraulic steering, high revving NA motors and manual transmissions in 16 years. Maybe have an appreciation for them but that's about it (like young adults right now in regard to classic American Muscle). |
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11-30-2018, 04:40 PM | #61 | |
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Can't wait for G82 Need to try this on new model too Just kidding, love manuals so much more engaging and fun to drive
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11-30-2018, 04:54 PM | #62 |
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11-30-2018, 05:10 PM | #63 |
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They already have.
The biggest issue I see is with any M manual is re-sale. With lease numbers becoming so terrible and forcing buyers to buy with special APR deals - it is really tough to sell the manual M3/M4's. Not only do they take longer to sell but they sell for significantly less. |
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11-30-2018, 06:27 PM | #65 |
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What about the new M3 😩😩😩😩😩😩😩 and RWD /AWD Option M3 with a MT 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 I'll never need another car again
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It'll be a sad day when there are no more MTs in production. Performance aside, there's nothing like driving a MT on the track. I'm just glad they're trying to keep it alive for as long as possible.
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