[ChrisM4]

X-Drive is awesome on tighter tracks. It rips out of corners.

There’s nothing wrong with the RWD versions either (especially the manual) but the x-drive is quicker on 95% of tracks us amateurs will be on.

Everyone gets so worked up!

[kolosy]

Originally Posted by ChrisM4

X-Drive is awesome on tighter tracks. It rips out of corners.

There’s nothing wrong with the RWD versions either (especially the manual) but the x-drive is quicker on 95% of tracks us amateurs will be on.

Everyone gets so worked up!

haha yeah i didn't realize i threw a grenade in with that post esp since most people won't put theirs on track..

[turbojg]

These days I think that if most people lost weight they could pretty much make up for the extra weight of the X-Drive.

[m4ml]

Originally Posted by turbojg

These days I think that if most people lost weight they could pretty much make up for the extra weight of the X-Drive.

Reading this whole thread and then this post, I think back to the time that I was thinking about getting a new road bike that weighed three pounds less than my current one so that I'd be faster. But, it would cost me over $10k. Then I looked down, saw my gut and realized I could lose 40 lbs for a helluva lot cheaper.

[Trevorr]

AWD being faster on track highly depends on the track.

But does any of this matter anyways? the M cars are 3,900+ lbs. Both are just “weekend warriors” where they are perfect for those once or twice a year track events.

[BryanCO]

Originally Posted by Trevorr

AWD being faster on track highly depends on the track.

But does any of this matter anyways? the M cars are 3,900+ lbs. Both are just “weekend warriors” where they are perfect for those once or twice a year track events.

Which tracks would X Drive be slower? A cart track?

[M3_Dust]

Originally Posted by jmg

Its a shame you didn’t do any research and bought a car you didn’t like.

That's funny, you clearly don't know who I am. I can report that I have the only version of the G8X that I was interested in and it's a massive pleasure to drive, even gets tons of compliments despite the absence of stripes.

I used to really enjoy the forums but not so much anymore, you guys all just care about who is the fastest out of some hypothetical turn on some racetrack where this car has no business anyway, or better yet, can you beat that hellcat at the stoplight.

[Trevorr]

Originally Posted by BryanCO

Which tracks would X Drive be slower? A cart track?

I actually meant RWD. But to play hypothetical, how about nascar tracks? Or tracks that lack any sort of tighter turns? Fuji speedway comes to mind.

[Trevorr]

Originally Posted by M3_Dust

That's funny, you clearly don't know who I am. I can report that I have the only version of the G8X that I was interested in and it's a massive pleasure to drive, even gets tons of compliments despite the absence of stripes.

I used to really enjoy the forums but not so much anymore, you guys all just care about who is the fastest out of some hypothetical turn on some racetrack where this car has no business anyway, or better yet, can you beat that hellcat at the stoplight.

I've noticed that this forum is dominated by hardcore fanboys.

IMO a TRUE car enthusiast, appreciates all cars for what they are and doesn't compare said car to their own car.

[BryanCO]

Originally Posted by Trevorr

I actually meant RWD. But to play hypothetical, how about nascar tracks? Or tracks that lack any sort of tighter turns? Fuji speedway comes to mind.

So, in other words, X Drive/AWD being faster on a track is not highly dependent on the track.

I have a RWD M3 so I don’t really care about ultimate lap times but just had never heard that AWD wasn’t generally the fastest configuration for a track.

[Gottagofast]

Originally Posted by BryanCO

So, in other words, X Drive/AWD being faster on a track is not highly dependent on the track.

I have a RWD M3 so I don’t really care about ultimate lap times but just had never heard that AWD wasn’t generally the fastest configuration for a track.

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/toronto-motorsports-park

I currently hold the lap record for the fastest stock production car on that track. The xdrive is incredible. That track has four major 180° corners and you can pick up the throttle very early and shoot out of every single one of them without the rear slipping out, something the car would not be able to do if it was rear wheel drive only.

You can see a similar theme in the official BMW Nurburgring laps. The CSL is constantly losing the rear if the driver so much dares to go near the throttle in a sharp corner, but the CS is able to just floor it out of every slow corner with no correction required from the driver. It can also take more curb as the punishment would be far less severe on the CS.

On my time attack attempt at the track, I drove the car with all aids turned off and in 4WD sport mode. The car has no understeer when the tires are up to temperature. Xdrive is a god send on tight twisty roads or tracks, and as my daily driver, it's great in winter too.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by M3_Dust

That's funny, you clearly don't know who I am. I can report that I have the only version of the G8X that I was interested in and it's a massive pleasure to drive, even gets tons of compliments despite the absence of stripes.

I used to really enjoy the forums but not so much anymore, you guys all just care about who is the fastest out of some hypothetical turn on some racetrack where this car has no business anyway, or better yet, can you beat that hellcat at the stoplight.

You made a broad generalization to the effect that we are all coping, and now you are making another one about hypothetical tracks and Hellcat drag races. The purpose of your post was to offend, and I was admittedly offended enough to reply to you when I should have just ignored it.

I don't know you, but you don't know everyone on the board either. I haven't experienced the negativity you have, but maybe my expectations are different. People here generally love this car and this board, otherwise we wouldn't be here. No, we don't all share the same opinions, and we don't have the same needs when it comes to owning a M3/4, but that's the point: to experience a diverse group of people with just as diverse opinions and lifestyles.

I'm sorry that this board has driven you to want to get rid of a car that you state yourself is a massive pleasure to drive. What drove you to let other people ruin your own enjoyment? Personally, I enjoy this car on the track precisely because it is developed on a platform that doesn't necessarily have any business on a track: a 3 or 4 series street car. The fact that it can hold its own against sports cars on a track and can still complete a round trip to Costco is part of the appeal. I don't drag race Hellcats because drag racing doesn't interest me. I prefer circuits, but if other members enjoy drag racing, who am I to tell them what they should and shouldn't enjoy? They probably find circuits boring, and that's fine, I do it for my own enjoyment.

So long as we all have a respect for our differences, we can all enjoy positive experiences in this community.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by BryanCO

Which tracks would X Drive be slower? A cart track?

I actually compete in time attacks at a local Kart track. I regularly get the fastest times of the day in almost all the sessions and win almost every competition. For what it's worth, the X-Drive is even better because of how fast I can pull out of all those tight corners.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Trevorr

AWD being faster on track highly depends on the track.

But does any of this matter anyways? the M cars are 3,900+ lbs. Both are just “weekend warriors” where they are perfect for those once or twice a year track events.

Once or twice a year? I go up to twice a month if I can squeeze it into my schedule. There are non competitive HPDE’s almost every weekend. Time Attack once a month weather permitting, Autocross several times a month, and then there is Grid Life with their seasonal competitive Time Attack. SCAA has their TNIA and Solos.

[Sonic RR]

Originally Posted by FC4

Why would you want AWD for a car you plan to track?

Ask Audi, Mitsubishi, Nissan





Sonic

[mirob]

Originally Posted by Trevorr

I've noticed that this forum is dominated by hardcore fanboys.

IMO a TRUE car enthusiast, appreciates all cars for what they are and doesn't compare said car to their own car.

I'm a self-admitted fanboy that happens to love all cars. Just because I wouldn't own a GT500 doesn't mean I don't get hard when I see one. I would think that most on here are like that. Of course we're going to defend what we drive, though. We're passionate. It's human nature.

With all the fun we have here, a lot of people forget that is a BMW forum first and foremost.

What's interesting about your post is that this isn't even a VS other brand/car thread. Seems like you've been holding that one in, looking for the right time and M3_Dust gave you an opportunity. If you guys don't like it here leave...or don't. Nobody fucking cares.

I see plenty of shit I don't like daily and just scroll past it.

[Trevorr]

Originally Posted by mirob

I'm a self-admitted fanboy that happens to love all cars. Just because I wouldn't own a GT500 doesn't mean I don't get hard when I see one. I would think that most on here are like that. Of course we're going to defend what we drive, though. We're passionate. It's human nature.

With all the fun we have here, a lot of people forget that is a BMW forum first and foremost.

What's interesting about your post is that this isn't even a VS other brand/car thread. Seems like you've been holding that one in, looking for the right time and M3_Dust gave you an opportunity. If you guys don't like it here leave...or don't. Nobody fucking cares.

I see plenty of shit I don't like daily and just scroll past it.

Yet here you are, not scrolling past my post…. Very bold assumptions as well. Try harder next time.

I’m here because I have a 24 g80 xdrive that is great?

[mirob]

Originally Posted by Trevorr

Yet here you are, not scrolling past my post…. Very bold assumptions as well. Try harder next time.

I’m here because I have a 24 g80 xdrive that is great?

Sometimes a take is so preposterous that I can't help myself but shit all over it. Your response is typical for someone who doesn't have a real retort. I've seen it all here.

[Trevorr]

Originally Posted by jmg

But does any of this matter anyways? the M cars are 3,900+ lbs. Both are just “weekend warriors” where they are perfect for those once or twice a year track events.

Once or twice a year? I go up to twice a month if I can squeeze it into my schedule. There are non competitive HPDE’s almost every weekend. Time Attack once a month weather permitting, Autocross several times a month, and then there is Grid Life with their seasonal competitive Time Attack. SCAA has their TNIA and Solos.

That’s great. You’re definitely the exception, not the rule though. I do 3-4 sessions per year with another car that I own because tires and track fee/ insurance are expensive.

I’ll probably do 1-2 with the g80 this year, I have CCBs, gotta make them last…

[turbojg]

Originally Posted by m4ml

Reading this whole thread and then this post, I think back to the time that I was thinking about getting a new road bike that weighed three pounds less than my current one so that I'd be faster. But, it would cost me over $10k. Then I looked down, saw my gut and realized I could lose 40 lbs for a helluva lot cheaper.

OMG. That same thing happened to me.

[kolosy]

Originally Posted by Trevorr

That’s great. You’re definitely the exception, not the rule though. I do 3-4 sessions per year with another car that I own because tires and track fee/ insurance are expensive.

I’ll probably do 1-2 with the g80 this year, I have CCBs, gotta make them last…

I’ve done about 10 days since fall of last year (and this is Chicago, so it’s the fall, and then nothing again until April)

Plenty of G8x on track around here, and I’m tracking my E90 track build. Everything I see says that the G80 is perfectly up to hte task of dual duty 10-15 track days per season + daily drivingm which is why I’m looking and asking the question from a track-first perspective.

Interesting how this place compares to the E90 forums. Definitely a lot more traffic sitters than track drivers, which I guess makes sense on a 80-100k new car vs a 30-60k 10 year old drama queen.

[Trevorr]

Originally Posted by kolosy

I’ve done about 10 days since fall of last year (and this is Chicago, so it’s the fall, and then nothing again until April)

Plenty of G8x on track around here, and I’m tracking my E90 track build. Everything I see says that the G80 is perfectly up to hte task of dual duty 10-15 track days per season + daily drivingm which is why I’m looking and asking the question from a track-first perspective.

Interesting how this place compares to the E90 forums. Definitely a lot more traffic sitters than track drivers, which I guess makes sense on a 80-100k new car vs a 30-60k 10 year old drama queen.

I’m sure the car would be up to the task. But geez… 10-15 sessions per year is a lot though. Love to hear how often you’re replacing brakes/tires..

I think that for many on here the g80 is their primary car. One thing I’ve noticed about track enthusiasts is that they typically have other daily drivers in addition to their toys.

I don’t daily my G80 or my track toy. Also since the track is an expensive hobby, it excludes a lot of people because getting on the track is what, $600? Then add in track insurance which is another $500? Then factor in you might burn through a set of tires as well.