[jsublime]

+1 million for adjustable ASD. Great idea.

Read most of the reviews, they all seem positive but I feel like I basically read a brochure for a new shock absorber design. That's all they really talked about. Not sure how I feel about the digi dash, looks strange but I'm guessing it'll grow on me with time. Looking forward to actual driving reviews later this year.

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by jsublime

+1 million for adjustable ASD. Great idea.

Read most of the reviews, they all seem positive but I feel like I basically read a brochure for a new shock absorber design. That's all they really talked about. Not sure how I feel about the digi dash, looks strange but I'm guessing it'll grow on me with time. Looking forward to actual driving reviews later this year.

All the reviews have been pretty much the same, pointless reading them until the car is actually out. I've gotten bored of 4 x same set of comments.

[YeaG30]

Originally Posted by sahajesh

All the reviews have been pretty much the same, pointless reading them until the car is actually out. I've gotten bored of 4 x same set of comments.

I agree. Most F30 owners who are interested in replacing with the G20 want to know about the steering feedback. Although briefly mentioned, it was hardly discussed for the most part.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

[nozydog]

Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

The question of interior quality is also on my mind. My previous F30 335i developed many interior sounds: road imperfections resonating and causing buzzing sounds where panels were not secured well enough, creaking sounds, and any more.

My 2012 F30 was awful, but my 2017 F30 is fine... probably sorted most issues with the LCi... that's why I'll never buy a new model in it's first year of production (and better to wait for LCi, where most issues would be sorted)

[nozydog]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Just came here to say that in reading a few reviews, how disappointed I am to hear that the ASD is so loud in the sportier modes. Ugh.

BMW, if you are reading this, please make ASD adjustable via iDrive. Audi has it under drive select individual settings. Make it able to turn off completely too. Seriously, it's probably like 5 lines of software coding. iDrive can adjust everything else, make this a setting too!

Thank you.

I've heard the F30 has ASD but I can't hear a thing in my 340i (other than the natural sound if I open the windows) I could hear it in the 330i I test drove I think, maybe only used in 4 pot cars!?

But you're spot on... if it's there it should have volume adjustable down to zero in the iDrive definitely!! Not everyone wants this or wants the hassle of coding!

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by nozydog

I've heard the F30 has ASD but I can't hear a thing in my 340i (other than the natural sound if I open the windows) I could hear it in the 330i I test drove I think, maybe only used in 4 pot cars!?

But you're spot on... if it's there it should have volume adjustable down to zero in the iDrive definitely!! Not everyone wants this or wants the hassle of coding!

My 17 340i had it and I removed via coding - you don't need the windows down to hear it.

[nozydog]

Originally Posted by sahajesh

My 17 340i had it and I removed via coding - you don't need the windows down to hear it.

That's bizarre as you're in the UK like me and mine is a 2017 too!

Definitely can't hear any artificial sound in my cabin (sometimes I wish I could as it's so quiet in there!!) I read somewhere that the module can be unplugged somewhere in the boot floor under the trim... mine was a brand new car though so should be as it left the factory!!

Was the sound there in all drive modes? I always drive in sport mode but rarely sport plus!

edit: just a thought... maybe it's only on the auto transmission cars... anyone with a manual notice it??

[praxis218]

Originally Posted by nozydog

Was the sound there in all drive modes? I always drive in sport mode but rarely sport plus!

Wait this car has modes other than sport plus?

Maybe that's why I only get 14mpg.

[dopefishz]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

You shouldn't have to.

My point is that one, multiple journalists mentioned how loud and obnoxious it is. So either BMW is fishing for feedback or they are oblivious. Two, it's an easy thing to add to iDrive. Coding isn't hard, in that spherical trigonometry or physical chemistry is HARD, however hooking up a laptop to your car is way more difficult than simply scrolling through iDrive.

The jig is up. BMW tried to sneak ASD past us so many years ago. Now everyone knows it's there. And moreover everyone is doing it. The loaner Macan I am driving today has it as part of the Sports Exhaust. But as I said, Audi, VW and others allow you to change it right in your settings. So should BMW. Should not require coding.

or just produce a nice sounding four banger to start with.

[nozydog]

Originally Posted by dopefishz

or just produce a nice sounding four banger to start with.

Yup.... Alfa don’t have a problem

[nozydog]

Originally Posted by Laki021

Some more, just confirming how accurate the render is.

Hmmm, all appears a bit budget to me!!!

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by Laki021

Some more, just confirming how accurate the render is.

Wow. This looks like a serious update.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

All about DRIVING, and then really NOTHING about driving.

Pointless video.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by Falafel Combo

Bought a first generation f30 335i M Sport. 2013 MY. My very first BRAND NEW BMW!!! She was pretty too.

Big mistake.

Never again first generations.

Yes, that can suck.

I had a 2012 334i Msport. I ordered it in July of 2011.
The only somewhat larger issue was the extremely high fan speed that would rarely result in some throttle response, or power, loss.
Shut off and restart would fix it.
They fixed it after a number of cars had the same issue, and then it was good.

Other than that my 2012 335i was pretty reliable for the 3 years I had it. My 2016 340i Msport has been great, no issues.
Yes, there is still too much road/tire noise when driving on concrete roads, but HK audio fixes that, along with an occasional creak in the dash somewhere.

For me both were reliable. Only yearly included maintenance for the 340i Msport.

I have no problem with getting the initial first year models.
BMW had been great at addressing problems.
It can take a bit of time for a widespread issue to be fully acknowledged, but once it is BMW is great with fixing those issues.
My experience with other brands is not as good especially Nissan, Ford, Chevy, and the old Plymouth. Audi and BMW have been great in that regard. It's a big reason why I come back to BMW.

Too bad the new 3 is so far away and my current lease is due next month. I don't want to extend my lease until potentially April or May of next year for a new M340i.
I'm very close to completing a deal on a 2018 Audi S4.
It's a very nice automobile and competes very well with
my 340i Msport.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by cupojava

Wait this car has modes other than sport plus?

Maybe that's why I only get 14mpg.

To all in general:

I HOPE that BMW finally includes a driver programmable "settings" mode that the driver can set as default, the way Audi has been doing it for years now.

I test drove an S3 and S4 and in both there is an "individual" mode where the driver can select the various options for all parameters that have a range.

BMW didn't bother to include that even in the LCI, and really, how much programming effort would that have taken.

Overall, I HATE the whole ridiculous idea of driving "modes".
It was an answer to a question no one was asking, looking for, nor needed.

My 135i had ONE mode, and I loved that car. My first BMW a 2003 325i sport had ONE mode, and it was fantastic, and so did a 2006 A4 sport that I had before the 135i, and it too was very nice.

Driving "modes" is a freaking ridiculous gimmick.
That's my take on it. Feel free to accept and use my opinion as your fact.

[anotheran]

If you read the key stats, it reads like the F30 announcement

- it's bigger in all dimensions
- it weigh less
- chassis is more rigid
- M Sport Package includes: 0.4" lowered suspension, stiffer springs, larger staggered performance tires, larger M Sport brakes
- volume model 328i/330i is getting more hp and tq

They forgot to mention:
- msport brakes no longer include fixed 2 piston rear brakes,
- eLSD (a braking version is found with DSC off: https://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=719012 in previous non M BMWs),
- the steering still is catered to luxury car buyers
- explicitly state the msport suspension will be fitted to xdrive cars too (I think this will happen)

[insanecoder]

it weighs less cause theyre replacing more steel with aluminum
less weight is good
aluminum imo is not good (compared to steel)