No manual tranny? No new 3 series for me

phillyd2 · 10-11-2018, 01:44 PM

To all of you not buying, Thank you!

SmoothStyle1 · 10-16-2018, 09:50 AM

Interesting

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ap-road-video/

MT4life · 10-16-2018, 10:24 AM

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Interesting

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ap-road-video/

I'm sorry but the car looks too much like a q50 and something else.
Also yes I'm a snob I'm not driving a Kia/Hyundai, have to be able to hang at the parking lot at work.

SmoothStyle1 · 10-16-2018, 03:59 PM

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I'm sorry but the car looks too much like a q50 and something else.
Also yes I'm a snob I'm not driving a Kia/Hyundai, have to be able to hang at the parking lot at work.

Not saying I'd consider it either but it's one of the last 4D sports sedans on the market that offers a 6MT. And interestingly their manual has other upgrades that come with it including Brembo brakes and a sport exhaust which means they realize that manuals cater to enthusiasts.

If Hyundai/Genesis is willing to produce a small number of 6MTs for their 4D sedan then shame on BMW for giving up on this for the 3-series (in the U.S).

goj · 10-16-2018, 06:01 PM

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Without a 6spd the 3 series is not my first choice - or even second or third, when my lease is up in July I'll be getting one of the following:
S5 Sportback
Jag XE S
Volvo V60

There isn't much else to say, I think BMW has lost the sport sedan race now.

How can you be so negative when you don't even know how the car drives?

ScottAndrew · 10-17-2018, 05:06 AM

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How can you be so negative when you don't even know how the car drives?

Internetz.

FlyingScot1050 · 10-17-2018, 08:07 AM

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I guess the removal of the 6MT from BMW's lineup is dovetailing nicely with my unexpected attraction to the new Camaros...

Suppose I'll be migrating to an American muscle car next, which I never thought would happen unless it was built in 1969.

Good news is the 1LE is an incredibly capable car. If I wasn't doing the car seat thing with two kiddos, I'd certainly be looking at a Mustang GT PP2 next year

MassBimmer · 10-17-2018, 08:41 AM

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Sorry not sorry- I just don't know how they can claim "ultimate driving machine" without a manual tranny. It's about driver Involvement.

That's OK
There are alternatives and it's not the end of the world!
First world problems

No that's the the f-in problem. There are NO alternatives. That's it. We're done.
4 door sports sedan with 6 speed manual transmission from Japan or Europe with 6-cylinder ( f it, even 4 Turbocharged) engine. None! No, boy racer Type R and STI don't count.

If someone posts "that's what ///M cars are for..." I'm gonna throw a rock at them

A4 comes with a manual. Go buy an Audi

Sportstick · 10-17-2018, 09:02 AM

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A4 comes with a manual. Go buy an Audi

Not any more, and that is really cruel advice, having bought, suffered through for a couple of years, and then dumped a 2016 Audi A6 3.0T Prestige with numerous quality problems, lack of technical ability to fix, and deceptive/poor/dishonest customer support from AoA. Audi/VW? Not even for an enemy!

BMV///M3 · 10-17-2018, 09:11 AM

Just buy yourself a 97-98 or 00-01 Integra Type R. They are hard to get ahold of, one that's not salvage title or modded, but I sure do miss my 00 GSR and always wanted to have an ITR for the driving experience. It is FWD but boy it was fun.

G80indy · 10-17-2018, 09:11 AM

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Honda Type R

The Honda Type R is one of the worst looking cars on the road.

And not one bit a competitor to the 3er.

BS
It's a fast fun car
And light
(Lighter than my Dinan e46 with more power- yahoooo!)
(the 2019 will look better than the current Type R- with LCI update)
And it won't break my wallet, at purchase or for repairs

MassBimmer · 10-17-2018, 09:29 AM

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A4 comes with a manual. Go buy an Audi

Not any more, and that is really cruel advice, having bought, suffered through for a couple of years, and then dumped a 2016 Audi A6 3.0T Prestige with numerous quality problems, lack of technical ability to fix, and deceptive/poor/dishonest customer support from AoA. Audi/VW? Not even for an enemy!

Check their website again

trey100 · 10-17-2018, 09:32 AM

Those looking for a manual, there's always a used F80 or M240 that would be in the price range of a new 3 series.

Sportstick · 10-17-2018, 09:44 AM

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Check their website again

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/au...continued-2019

Their Marketing department perhaps hasn't kept up? Not surprising considering how the rest of the company operates.

MassBimmer · 10-17-2018, 09:47 AM

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Check their website again

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/au...continued-2019

Their Marketing department perhaps hasn't kept up? Not surprising considering how the rest of the company operates.

I stand corrected. Odd that the site still shows it as an option when that article was published 2 months ago

Sportstick · 10-17-2018, 10:00 AM

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I stand corrected. Odd that the site still shows it as an option when that article was published 2 months ago

In all fairness, the Marketing folks have to get the info out to the subcontracted web management company. At my prior competitive car company, that process was not always the most efficient, so delays/obsolete data doesn't come as a surprise. Regardless, Audi never again forever stands!

SmoothStyle1 · 10-17-2018, 03:04 PM

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Those looking for a manual, there's always a used F80 or M240 that would be in the price range of a new 3 series.

M240 is not a 4-DR. There are plenty of 2-DR cars out there with manual transmissions.

6MTs in the sport sedan category are essentially becoming extinct.

MT4life · 10-17-2018, 04:13 PM

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M240 is not a 4-DR. There are plenty of 2-DR cars out there with manual transmissions.

6MTs in the sport sedan category are essentially becoming extinct.

Precisely. And I want a used M-anything like hemorrhoids, especially after warranty.

G80indy · 10-17-2018, 05:38 PM

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Precisely. And I want a used M-anything like hemorrhoids, especially after warranty.

Agree 100%

trey100 · 10-17-2018, 06:03 PM

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M240 is not a 4-DR. There are plenty of 2-DR cars out there with manual transmissions.

6MTs in the sport sedan category are essentially becoming extinct.

Yeah 4 door is down to a GTI or Golf R

hans007 · 10-17-2018, 09:55 PM

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Yeah 4 door is down to a GTI or Golf R

I guess if it's only European? g70, wrx, and Civic type r have 4 doors

trey100 · 10-18-2018, 06:26 AM

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Those looking for a manual, there's always a used F80 or M240 that would be in the price range of a new 3 series.

M240 is not a 4-DR. There are plenty of 2-DR cars out there with manual transmissions.

6MTs in the sport sedan category are essentially becoming extinct.

Yeah 4 door is down to a GTI or Golf R

I guess if it's only European? g70, wrx, and Civic type r have 4 doors

G70 as in Genesis? Can you get a manual with the bigger engine?

Civic is just way too boy racer.

WRX is a good all around car imo.

Still very small set of options and none of them are luxury level save maybe the Golf R having some Audi touches but it's still a VW. BMW could have really stood out keeping manuals an option.

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