Bimmerpost
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
2019+ BMW 3 AND 4-SERIES FORUMS (G2x Generation) Local Forums UK M340i fake zorst pipes - cover up option?

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-31-2020, 04:45 PM   #1
Karl V
Private
Karl V's Avatar
United Kingdom
63
Rep
95
Posts

Drives: Sideways
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Reigate(ish)

iTrader: (0)

M340i fake zorst pipes - cover up option?

So it's been a month into M340i ownership (and about 200 miles thanks to d'virus) and there are 2 things I really don't like:

1) The sound system. Don't get me wrong, the HK system is great, it's just that it drowns out the pops and bangs. Kids want to listen to Crab Rave (don't ask), and I want to time my pops and bangs to annoy pedestrians. Nightmare, but not important right now.

2) The fake exhaust tips.

I see there are full-on after market options available to replace the OEM pipes with quad pipes and what not (for many thousands), but my question is, I hope, quite simple:

Anyone tried to cosmetically improve the gaping... gap... that lies between the exhaust pipe and that monster oval tip? I think the main issue is the amount of daylight between the exhaust pipe and those oval surrounds. The bright silver heat resistant material on display doesn't exactly help.

Name:  Untitled.jpg
Views: 722
Size:  219.8 KB

I understand that exhaust pipes move under load and the cosmetic oval surrounds don't 'cos they are part of the bodywork. As such, there has to be some kind of gap to prevent contact, but it's a heck of a gap. You could drive a bus through there - if you had a bus (?)

I have no intention of buying after market exhaust parts, but am pretty close to buying some aluminium cooker hood ducting and a rattle can of high temperature black paint.

Anyone found a better way?
__________________
Digital drive: M340i
Analogue drive: Ariel Nomad
Appreciate 0
      03-31-2020, 06:38 PM   #2
Alanli722
Private
24
Rep
73
Posts

Drives: G20 M340i
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Coventry

iTrader: (0)

M340i fake zorst pipes - cover up option?

The sound system is good for what it is. But I agree that the exhaust is somewhat muted. Especially after watching countless YouTube videos comparing it to the C43 before deciding to buy the car.

The outlets aren't "fake" like some cars, although they aren't much better. Not sure on a cosmetic fix. Been casually looking at aftermarket exhaust for more sound and they seem to be £2k upwards.
Appreciate 0
      04-01-2020, 05:23 AM   #3
Bee Pee
Brigadier General
United Kingdom
1295
Rep
4,052
Posts

Drives: AW M2 DCT
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SW London

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl V View Post

2) The fake exhaust tips.

I see there are full-on after market options available to replace the OEM pipes with quad pipes and what not (for many thousands), but my question is, I hope, quite simple:

Anyone tried to cosmetically improve the gaping... gap... that lies between the exhaust pipe and that monster oval tip? I think the main issue is the amount of daylight between the exhaust pipe and those oval surrounds. The bright silver heat resistant material on display doesn't exactly help.

Attachment 2272523

I understand that exhaust pipes move under load and the cosmetic oval surrounds don't 'cos they are part of the bodywork. As such, there has to be some kind of gap to prevent contact, but it's a heck of a gap. You could drive a bus through there - if you had a bus (?)

I have no intention of buying after market exhaust parts, but am pretty close to buying some aluminium cooker hood ducting and a rattle can of high temperature black paint.

Anyone found a better way?
Cheapest option would be to spray whatever's showing up in the gap - some sort of heatshield judging by yr photos - HT black paint to disguse the gap more perhaps ???

HTH,

BP
__________________
Fettled M135i EB AT - gone but not forgotten:
AW M2 DCT
Appreciate 0
      04-01-2020, 05:57 AM   #4
mofomat
Colonel
mofomat's Avatar
United Kingdom
583
Rep
2,038
Posts

Drives: R8 V10, BMW X5 (G05), BMW 318i
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Maastricht, NL

iTrader: (0)

Why do people call these (and similar examples on other models) "fake"? They're not fake! What exactly are they supposed to be faking anyway? They're a design feature around the bottom rear of the car where the exhausts are. The exhuast emits the gases through it, but it's very much a design feature and the motivation is to make the rear of the car look better/more interesting/sportier.

Whether they do that to the ACTUAL exhaust tip (complicated and much more expensive) or the rear of the car (makes much more sense), what difference does it make?

This is one of the few exahusts that can be legitimately called "fake".

Audi S6 diesel with a trim that is clearly designed to look like the real exhaust pipes while the ACTUAL exhaust pipes are elsewhere.


Also, the Lexus IS-F is partly fake. If it just had one chrome trim then it wouldn't be, but the addition of a second one makes it a bit questionable.



However, the following do NOT have "fake" exhaust pipes...

Mercedes-AMG GT


BMW X5


BMW M340i


Porsche 911 GT2 RS


Ferrari California


Mercedes-Benz C-Class. It's just a design feature.


Even my very own R8 V10 has this below, which is NOT fake. The oval chrome trim is a design feature.
Appreciate 0
      04-01-2020, 09:17 AM   #5
isleaiw1
Major General
3122
Rep
5,866
Posts

Drives: F90
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Son in laws GLC43 (and before that a C43 coupe) has fake exhausts much like the Audi pictured - 4 round exhaust pipe looking items but the exhaust exiting elsewhere....
Appreciate 0
      04-01-2020, 10:05 AM   #6
danorman777
Private
danorman777's Avatar
United Kingdom
15
Rep
80
Posts

Drives: 535d M Sport F10 soon a M340i
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Sussex

iTrader: (0)

And such a give away when the car is emitting water vapour only out of one or from under the car! Quite why Audi and Mercedes do it when there are two exhausts there anyway seems mad?
Appreciate 0
      04-01-2020, 10:28 AM   #7
isleaiw1
Major General
3122
Rep
5,866
Posts

Drives: F90
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by danorman777 View Post
And such a give away when the car is emitting water vapour only out of one or from under the car! Quite why Audi and Mercedes do it when there are two exhausts there anyway seems mad?
Suspect it is easier and cheaper to stick plastic styling parts than real exhaust parts....

Obsession with exhaust pipes is beyond me. Used to have a Golf GTi with wheelbarrow twin outlets which looked good to me, the R with its oversized 4 (of which two didnt get dirty as they were hardly ever used) just looked crap to me.

I think my current car can get away with 4 pipes - 1 litre and 2 cylinders per outlet seems ok.....
Appreciate 0
      04-01-2020, 11:07 AM   #8
Karl V
Private
Karl V's Avatar
United Kingdom
63
Rep
95
Posts

Drives: Sideways
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Reigate(ish)

iTrader: (0)

Without wanting to get into whether fumes come out of it or not, it's fake because the bodywork is designed to look like an exhaust tip, but isn't.

They did a proper job on the X3 M40i:

Name:  Image1.jpg
Views: 559
Size:  109.0 KB

Compared to the M340i:

Name:  Image2.jpg
Views: 565
Size:  117.9 KB

Just niggles me that there is a big oval 'exhaust' tip sitting there with an ickle pipe hiding (not too well) inside it. Seems cheap if BMW obviously have a solution readily available.
__________________
Digital drive: M340i
Analogue drive: Ariel Nomad
Appreciate 0
      04-02-2020, 04:14 PM   #9
225
Brigadier General
1536
Rep
3,875
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Uk

iTrader: (0)

Agree it looks like an after thought on the m340. I loved the wheel barrows on my 340 and had the left flap constantly open as it was unplugged so had vapour and soot on both sides.

It's a shame they made the wheel barrows standard on the lower performance models and stuck these blatantly fake tips on the range topper. Yes I class them as fake even if they do actually work as part of the exhaust.

Not that we can get it in the uk but cant remember if the mpe for the m340 addresses it. Aftermarket will likely be the only option but bound to be expensive.

While I'm moaning what's with the ride height as well, the newer xdrive setup was supposed to cure the off road look of the f series xdrive!
Appreciate 1
Karl V63.00

      04-02-2020, 06:09 PM   #10
Karl V
Private
Karl V's Avatar
United Kingdom
63
Rep
95
Posts

Drives: Sideways
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Reigate(ish)

iTrader: (0)

I think I have found a solution...

Should be within my budget too ;-)

Name:  Untitled.jpg
Views: 478
Size:  150.2 KB
__________________
Digital drive: M340i
Analogue drive: Ariel Nomad
Appreciate 0
      04-03-2020, 05:45 AM   #11
Alanli722
Private
24
Rep
73
Posts

Drives: G20 M340i
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Coventry

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 225 View Post
Agree it looks like an after thought on the m340. I loved the wheel barrows on my 340 and had the left flap constantly open as it was unplugged so had vapour and soot on both sides.

It's a shame they made the wheel barrows standard on the lower performance models and stuck these blatantly fake tips on the range topper. Yes I class them as fake even if they do actually work as part of the exhaust.

Not that we can get it in the uk but cant remember if the mpe for the m340 addresses it. Aftermarket will likely be the only option but bound to be expensive.

While I'm moaning what's with the ride height as well, the newer xdrive setup was supposed to cure the off road look of the f series xdrive!
ACS springs would solve that, they seem to be the only thing that's actually "cheap". Pedal set from them at £171 isn't too bad until you realise that you would need to get the footrest aswell at £205.
Appreciate 0
      04-03-2020, 11:31 AM   #12
225
Brigadier General
1536
Rep
3,875
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Uk

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alanli722 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 225 View Post
Agree it looks like an after thought on the m340. I loved the wheel barrows on my 340 and had the left flap constantly open as it was unplugged so had vapour and soot on both sides.

It's a shame they made the wheel barrows standard on the lower performance models and stuck these blatantly fake tips on the range topper. Yes I class them as fake even if they do actually work as part of the exhaust.

Not that we can get it in the uk but cant remember if the mpe for the m340 addresses it. Aftermarket will likely be the only option but bound to be expensive.

While I'm moaning what's with the ride height as well, the newer xdrive setup was supposed to cure the off road look of the f series xdrive!
ACS springs would solve that, they seem to be the only thing that's actually "cheap". Pedal set from them at £171 isn't too bad until you realise that you would need to get the footrest aswell at £205.
Yes acs springs were common on xdrive f series due to wallowing and high tide height. Still it's a shame a 3er bmw needs them though, especially in an mlite.

As for 171 for some pedals no thanks!
Appreciate 0
      04-03-2020, 02:49 PM   #13
Andybird
Second Lieutenant
86
Rep
262
Posts

Drives: 330i G20 M Sport Plus
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Seaford, England

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl V View Post
So it's been a month into M340i ownership (and about 200 miles thanks to d'virus) and there are 2 things I really don't like:

1) The sound system. Don't get me wrong, the HK system is great, it's just that it drowns out the pops and bangs. Kids want to listen to Crab Rave (don't ask), and I want to time my pops and bangs to annoy pedestrians. Nightmare, but not important right now.

2) The fake exhaust tips.

I see there are full-on after market options available to replace the OEM pipes with quad pipes and what not (for many thousands), but my question is, I hope, quite simple:

Anyone tried to cosmetically improve the gaping... gap... that lies between the exhaust pipe and that monster oval tip? I think the main issue is the amount of daylight between the exhaust pipe and those oval surrounds. The bright silver heat resistant material on display doesn't exactly help.

Attachment 2272523

I understand that exhaust pipes move under load and the cosmetic oval surrounds don't 'cos they are part of the bodywork. As such, there has to be some kind of gap to prevent contact, but it's a heck of a gap. You could drive a bus through there - if you had a bus (?)

I have no intention of buying after market exhaust parts, but am pretty close to buying some aluminium cooker hood ducting and a rattle can of high temperature black paint.

Anyone found a better way?
Trade it in for a 330i........
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 1
Karl V63.00

      04-06-2020, 11:21 AM   #14
Karl V
Private
Karl V's Avatar
United Kingdom
63
Rep
95
Posts

Drives: Sideways
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Reigate(ish)

iTrader: (0)

Option B???

Name:  Untitled.jpg
Views: 305
Size:  218.0 KB
__________________
Digital drive: M340i
Analogue drive: Ariel Nomad
Appreciate 3
hamera43.50
OM3RTA60.50

      04-07-2020, 01:05 PM   #15
225
Brigadier General
1536
Rep
3,875
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Uk

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andybird View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl V View Post
So it's been a month into M340i ownership (and about 200 miles thanks to d'virus) and there are 2 things I really don't like:

1) The sound system. Don't get me wrong, the HK system is great, it's just that it drowns out the pops and bangs. Kids want to listen to Crab Rave (don't ask), and I want to time my pops and bangs to annoy pedestrians. Nightmare, but not important right now.

2) The fake exhaust tips.

I see there are full-on after market options available to replace the OEM pipes with quad pipes and what not (for many £ thousands), but my question is, I hope, quite simple:

Anyone tried to cosmetically improve the gaping... gap... that lies between the exhaust pipe and that monster oval tip? I think the main issue is the amount of daylight between the exhaust pipe and those oval surrounds. The bright silver heat resistant material on display doesn't exactly help.

Attachment 2272523

I understand that exhaust pipes move under load and the cosmetic oval surrounds don't 'cos they are part of the bodywork. As such, there has to be some kind of gap to prevent contact, but it's a heck of a gap. You could drive a bus through there - if you had a bus (?)

I have no intention of buying after market exhaust parts, but am pretty close to buying some aluminium cooker hood ducting and a rattle can of high temperature black paint.

Anyone found a better way?
Trade it in for a 330i........
Wheel barrow thief!
Appreciate 2
Karl V63.00

      04-19-2020, 04:32 PM   #16
giorgoXXI
Private First Class
56
Rep
114
Posts

Drives: BMW M340i
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: London

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mofomat View Post
Also, the Lexus IS-F is partly fake. If it just had one chrome trim then it wouldn't be, but the addition of a second one makes it a bit questionable.
Small correction, the Lexus IS-F does have quad exhausts, so its the same as the other cars.
Appreciate 0
      04-20-2020, 04:45 AM   #17
mofomat
Colonel
mofomat's Avatar
United Kingdom
583
Rep
2,038
Posts

Drives: R8 V10, BMW X5 (G05), BMW 318i
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Maastricht, NL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by giorgoXXI View Post
Small correction, the Lexus IS-F does have quad exhausts, so its the same as the other cars.
You're right. I wonder which one I was thinking of then.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:31 AM.




g20
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST