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      07-23-2019, 03:11 PM   #1
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How about the Cadillac CT4-V "Blackwing"?

With the potential demise of the manual G80, I think the CT4-V Blackwing might be my next car. The predecessor to that car, the ATS-V is widely considered to be the better handling sport sedan/coupe, but with a compromised interior (size and tech). If the CT4 interior is good enough, it may be a better option than looking for a used F80.

If the CT4-V BW were to get a GM small block V8, it'd certainly be an easier decision. Instead, its expected to get a twin turbo V6 which I'm not a huge fan of.
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With the potential demise of the manual G80, I think the CT4-V Blackwing might be my next car. The predecessor to that car, the ATS-V is widely considered to be the better handling sport sedan/coupe, but with a compromised interior (size and tech). If the CT4 interior is good enough, it may be a better option than looking for a used F80.

If the CT4-V BW were to get a GM small block V8, it'd certainly be an easier decision. Instead, its expected to get a twin turbo V6 which I'm not a huge fan of.
I love V8s.. FI or NA. The design of caddys (inside moreso than outside) is a big show stopper for me. Looks like the new CT5 isn't gonna be much better than before...
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I think Caddys depreciate much more and faster than BMW's?
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I think Caddys depreciate much more and faster than BMW's?
Well domestic cars can usually be purchased with a pretty good discount. So it makes sense that their used car prices have an offset compared to BMW. However, the V Blackwing will probably not drop off quite as much since not many people will buy them new but will be somewhat popular in the used market. So not a big difference.

The big question is how ugly it will be and if the interior will be acceptable.
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ATS-V was a fantastic driving car with excellent steering feel, sadly no one bought one, but it should still be interesting to see what they do none the less. Also, now V is downmarket with M performance and AMG sport, so is Blackwing supposed to be their new hi-po division? I thought blackwing was the name of the V8?
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ATS-V was a fantastic driving car with excellent steering feel, sadly no one bought one, but it should still be interesting to see what they do none the less. Also, now V is downmarket with M performance and AMG sport, so is Blackwing supposed to be their new hi-po division? I thought blackwing was the name of the V8?
I was looking at one and the interior built quality was pretty bad. The seats rocked back and forth. The salesman said it was designed that way to help absorb the acceleration. I have to give him credit for the creative answer.
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I was looking at one and the interior built quality was pretty bad. The seats rocked back and forth. The salesman said it was designed that way to help absorb the acceleration. I have to give him credit for the creative answer.
Yes, one thing Cadillac really needs to improve on is their interior quality, its just too similar to that of a normal GM quality, but the driving experience and chassis are probably best in class, BMW could honestly learn a little something from the ATS-V and CTS-V.
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I was looking at one and the interior built quality was pretty bad. The seats rocked back and forth. The salesman said it was designed that way to help absorb the acceleration. I have to give him credit for the creative answer.
Yes, one thing Cadillac really needs to improve on is their interior quality, its just too similar to that of a normal GM quality, but the driving experience and chassis are probably best in class, BMW could honestly learn a little something from the ATS-V and CTS-V.
Oh yeah, the driving experience was great. I just couldn't get past the lousy interior.
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