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      05-06-2019, 11:42 PM   #23
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Yes! You know what else I don't like as well? How much it hurts when I stab myself with a knife, they definitely should make it like that by default, it's very dangerous too.

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If you follow the rules and use things correctly, like they were designed to be used, you won't have any problems. Driving without using your blinkers, EVEN if there aren't any cars around you, is dangerous and irresponsible. Driving aggressively and not following the rules is not something to be proud of and that's not what a BMW driver is like, so please don't generalize as well.

You can do whatever you like, but don't complain when you use something incorrectly and you don't like the consequences. However, that is just my opinion.
LOL!!! I save most of it for the track, but who's not guilty of punching it on an open road??? You drive at the speed limit all the time??? ☺️
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Yes! You know what else I don't like as well? How much it hurts when I stab myself with a knife, they definitely should make it like that by default, it's very dangerous too.

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If you follow the rules and use things correctly, like they were designed to be used, you won't have any problems. Driving without using your blinkers, EVEN if there aren't any cars around you, is dangerous and irresponsible. Driving aggressively and not following the rules is not something to be proud of and that's not what a BMW driver is like, so please don't generalize as well.

You can do whatever you like, but don't complain when you use something incorrectly and you don't like the consequences. However, that is just my opinion.
LOL!!! I save most of it for the track, but who's not guilty of punching it on an open road??? You drive at the speed limit all the time??? ☺️
Actually, yes I do.

There are places where you can have fun with your car (i.e. a track), a public road is not one of them.

If you want to drive dangerously and risk hurting yourself, you are free to do so if you want, but never put other people's lives or property at risk. And having no one else around you is not an excuse, because there are plenty of stupid people who will break the rules too, whether intentionally or not, and they will come out of nowhere and one of those times you might not have enough time to react.

Nothing is worth either your or someone else's life.
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      05-07-2019, 07:27 AM   #25
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Ha. What a silly issue for such drama. And not having anyone around IS the perfect excuse for not using turn signals.
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      05-07-2019, 09:41 AM   #26
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Yes! You know what else I don't like as well? How much it hurts when I stab myself with a knife, they definitely should make it like that by default, it's very dangerous too.

/s

If you follow the rules and use things correctly, like they were designed to be used, you won't have any problems. Driving without using your blinkers, EVEN if there aren't any cars around you, is dangerous and irresponsible. Driving aggressively and not following the rules is not something to be proud of and that's not what a BMW driver is like, so please don't generalize as well.

You can do whatever you like, but don't complain when you use something incorrectly and you don't like the consequences. However, that is just my opinion.
LOL!!! I save most of it for the track, but who's not guilty of punching it on an open road??? You drive at the speed limit all the time??? ☺️
Actually, yes I do.

There are places where you can have fun with your car (i.e. a track), a public road is not one of them.

If you want to drive dangerously and risk hurting yourself, you are free to do so if you want, but never put other people's lives or property at risk. And having no one else around you is not an excuse, because there are plenty of stupid people who will break the rules too, whether intentionally or not, and they will come out of nowhere and one of those times you might not have enough time to react.

Nothing is worth either your or someone else's life.
I respect your choices... if we were all the same this world of ours would be pretty boring. ✌🏻
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      05-07-2019, 03:16 PM   #27
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What a dangerous feature to have by default, especially on loaners. If you need to make an emergency evasive maneuver you're not going to have time to turn on blinkers.
So dangerous....
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      05-07-2019, 06:07 PM   #28
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I indicate when I change lanes 99% of the time so I don't have an issue with that part of the feature. My issue lies when you need to intentionally break a lane marker to go in/out of a lane in quick succession such as:
  • Passing car parked in bike lane taking up 1/4th of road
  • Passing car stuck halfway into lane to the right of me because they're merging
  • Avoiding potholes/any other obstacles rapidly

In these situations BMW correcting your steering wheel is dangerous and stupid.
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I indicate when I change lanes 99% of the time so I don't have an issue with that part of the feature. My issue lies when you need to intentionally break a lane marker to go in/out of a lane in quick succession such as:
  • Passing car parked in bike lane taking up 1/4th of road
  • Passing car stuck halfway into lane to the right of me because they're merging
  • Avoiding potholes/any other obstacles rapidly

In these situations BMW correcting your steering wheel is dangerous and stupid.
So it literally jerks the wheel in the other direction? Or is it like on mine vibrates a little when I get in front of someone perhaps too close to them?
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      05-07-2019, 07:09 PM   #30
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This feature was introduces on X5.

Consensus was to set it up like this:

- Vibration on - so it will vibrate if you leave lane
- Intervention - off - until it has a better program

In this configuration it works great.

Auto driving assist pro also has auto lane change - if you hold the signal for 3 sec the car will change lanes automatically and continue auto driving. (pretty entertaining - like playing computer game)

Blind spot detection has the steering intervention if you try to drive into the vehicle next to you ( leave it on)


The trick is to make those systems work for you and not fight them. I used to be against all that stuff - manual cars for 20 years. But seating in bumper to bumper traffic - it is a life saver and makes the driving so much less stressful.

And when it opens up - turn it off, put it in sport mode and take off.
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This feature was introduces on X5.

Consensus was to set it up like this:

- Vibration on - so it will vibrate if you leave lane
- Intervention - off - until it has a better program

In this configuration it works great.

Auto driving assist pro also has auto lane change - if you hold the signal for 3 sec the car will change lanes automatically and continue auto driving. (pretty entertaining - like playing computer game)

Blind spot detection has the steering intervention if you try to drive into the vehicle next to you ( leave it on)


The trick is to make those systems work for you and not fight them. I used to be against all that stuff - manual cars for 20 years. But seating in bumper to bumper traffic - it is a life saver and makes the driving so much less stressful.

And when it opens up - turn it off, put it in sport mode and take off.
What if there is an object in the road or a ball or person rolls or walks in front if you and you need to swerve to avoid but have to fight the LKA? It's like the airplane that nose dived because the sensor was wrong killing everyone on board.
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      05-08-2019, 12:51 AM   #32
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The effort required is small, you don't have to 'fight' it at all.

As others have said you can turn it off if you wish
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      05-08-2019, 08:01 AM   #33
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The effort required is small, you don't have to 'fight' it at all.

As others have said you can turn it off if you wish
It was a real PITA on my loaner car, didn't know it was on till I had to fight it then I did turn it off. Completely unnecessary a vibration on the steering wheel maybe but not actively preventing lane changes.
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      05-08-2019, 12:32 PM   #34
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Ok fair enough. It can be turned off if you wish.
The same goes with all the automatics in the car, at least they are not forced upon is
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Ok fair enough. It can be turned off if you wish.
The same goes with all the automatics in the car, at least they are not forced upon is
You are in the UK. Soon speed limiters will be forced upon you.
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It really surprised me the first time it happened. I swerved to the right to avoid a huge pothole and it jerked the car back into the lane so suddenly that I almost drove right over it. Now that I know what to expect, it's no big deal. You can easily overpower the system.
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Re speed limiters, yes true although still waiting for confirmation on how those will be implemented.
This is obviously not BMW's doing but the EU.

If it turns out to be restrictive the I'm sure that it will impact car sales in the short term and have a big effect for manufacturers such as Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin etc etc.
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Re speed limiters, yes true although still waiting for confirmation on how those will be implemented.
This is obviously not BMW's doing but the EU.

If it turns out to be restrictive the I'm sure that it will impact car sales in the short term and have a big effect for manufacturers such as Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin etc etc.
If it is like the speed limiter in this vehicle it will suck and even be dangerous. I can see doing this to felons and drunk drivers like installing a breathalyzer but not for the general public.
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I indicate when I change lanes 99% of the time so I don't have an issue with that part of the feature. My issue lies when you need to intentionally break a lane marker to go in/out of a lane in quick succession such as:
  • Passing car parked in bike lane taking up 1/4th of road
  • Passing car stuck halfway into lane to the right of me because they're merging
  • Avoiding potholes/any other obstacles rapidly

In these situations BMW correcting your steering wheel is dangerous and stupid.
So dangerous
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Re speed limiters, yes true although still waiting for confirmation on how those will be implemented.
This is obviously not BMW's doing but the EU.

If it turns out to be restrictive the I'm sure that it will impact car sales in the short term and have a big effect for manufacturers such as Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin etc etc.
They won't stop you from going over the limit. You'll just have to press the accelerator pass the point of resistance. That's what the idea behind legislation is.
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They won't stop you from going over the limit. You'll just have to press the accelerator pass the point of resistance. That's what the idea behind legislation is.
What is this speed limiter you're speaking of? What other Socialist Europe garbage did you come up with? It'd better not make it over here or on the cars imported to US
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It is meant to get your attention in case you are falling asleep at the wheel. Use your turn signals when changing lane and you will be ok.
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Re speed limiters, yes true although still waiting for confirmation on how those will be implemented.
This is obviously not BMW's doing but the EU.

If it turns out to be restrictive the I'm sure that it will impact car sales in the short term and have a big effect for manufacturers such as Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin etc etc.
They won't stop you from going over the limit. You'll just have to press the accelerator pass the point of resistance. That's what the idea behind legislation is.
That encourages people to floor it all the time. If you need to pull out quickly or accelerate quickly to avoid someone hitting you this slows you down as the acceleration is also reduced at low speeds. As demonstrated in the video above.
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They won't stop you from going over the limit. You'll just have to press the accelerator pass the point of resistance. That's what the idea behind legislation is.
What is this speed limiter you're speaking of? What other Socialist Europe garbage did you come up with? It'd better not make it over here or on the cars imported to US
I didn't come up with any shit. I merely replied to a post based on publicly available information.

And what's with all hatred for Europeans? After all this is a European car brand forum.
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