[madpistol]

Obviously, this is a BMW forum, so I can see this group being a bit biased. I'm mainly looking for people who own a current 3 series and have gotten a chance to test drive the TLX Type-S and been able to make a comparison between the 2. Many people are saying that dynamically, the TLX Type-S is an excellent car. Obviously it doesn't have the power or punch of an M340i, but supposedly they are excellent cars to drive.

This thread is NOT about speculation. It's about people who actually have first hand experience. Anyone out there gotten a chance?

[Merami fan]

The TLX Type S is bigger, longer wheelbase, heavier, and slower. If we're talking a $20k price differential, it makes sense. Within $10k of the M340i, the Type S is an absolute joke. If you want a cheaper car with a decent mix of power to weight ratio, handling, and price, look at a G70 3.3T, Stinger GT, Civic Type R, or even a Kia K5. At sticker, the Type S is a JOKE. It's not an NSX-lite or anything of the sort. It's a fat, overpriced TLX.

Daddy Doug gave it a 5 in handling. Other 5s: G80 3.5T, GS-F, Model 3, CT5-V. 6s: M340i, Stinger GT

Who said it's "excellent" dynamically? Reviewers at the Acura press event that also featured an S4 with piss in its fuel tank (see link below for explanation)? It's big and heavy. Acura produces cars, not magic.

See my post here if you want to see real-world 0-60 and 1/4 mile numbers. C/D numbers 2 posts above.
https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/2021-...97/97?u=kroos8

[EXE46]

I have no interest in anything Acura and doubt you will find an audience here who does. The car in question here is terrible, heavy, slow, huge exterior dimensions, FWD, dated interior, so so aesthetics that only a rabid Acura fanboy would love. Everything else in this segment makes for a more compelling consideration.

if one is on a budget the G70 is the first choice and likely only sensible choice. There simply is no need to look at the Acura, this company has been dead for decades again except to the hardcore Honda fanatic. Just funny how their deluded marketing department proclaim how they were building a worthy competitor in the segment So much hype and how they benchmarked the S4. Turns out the S4 is still superior in all metrics.

[Blubaron79]

TLX is bigger with a smaller back seat. Also Weighs 4,200lbs. Acura whiffed on this one.

[TruthOne]

There's a YouTube channel by Acura employees called AHC or something and they dragy'd the car three times . Best run was 5.23 seconds. Absolute dog of a car. If you want a Japanese car with some quickness get an Infiniti Q50 red sport or go korean and get a G70 or wait for the New IS500. The type s is heavy and slow as hell and the ONLY people who are praising this car are Acura fanboys on Acura forums or people paid off by Acura like Redline reviews who staged a race with an S4 . He had the never to put the TLX next to a G80 M3 to compare the looks. Made no sense at all.

[wtwo3]

I'm actually planning to test drive one next summer, which is around the time I'll start thinking about placing an order for my next car.

I have no intention to buy it, but I love giving every car in the segment a chance, if for no other reason than out of pure curiosity. I also like to think that I approach my car buying decision with as little bias as possible.

It's a handsome car for sure, but in driving Acuras of recent past, they've all been the opposite of sporty and fun. While I've heard good things about this one, I'm not holding my breath.

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

There's a YouTube channel by Acura employees called AHC or something and they dragy'd the car three times . Best run was 5.23 seconds. Absolute dog of a car. If you want a Japanese car with some quickness get an Infiniti Q50 red sport or go korean and get a G70 or wait for the New IS500. The type s is heavy and slow as hell and the ONLY people who are praising this car are Acura fanboys on Acura forums or people paid off by Acura like Redline reviews who staged a race with an S4 . He had the never to put the TLX next to a G80 M3 to compare the looks. Made no sense at all.

Agree on the G70 or IS500. Totally disagree on the Q50 RS. As a former owner of one, it's definitely fast in a straight line. But the second you turn the steering wheel, you realize why it's mostly a forgotten car. They got me with a ridiculous discount and no interest financing, but 2 and a half years into it I was already looking to get out.

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

I'm actually planning to test drive one next summer, which is around the time I'll start thinking about placing an order for my next car.

I have no intention to buy it, but I love giving every car in the segment a chance, if for no other reason than out of pure curiosity. I also like to think that I approach my car buying decision with as little bias as possible.

It's a handsome car for sure, but in driving Acuras of recent past, they've all been the opposite of sporty and fun. While I've heard good things about this one, I'm not holding my breath.

My most recent car was a 2013 Accord Coupe V6, and that car was actually really nice to drive, and I especially loved the VTEC and induction growl of the J35. It sounded super meaty and was a lot of fun to wring out the power of that motor. I also loved the fact that the car was incredible on road trips. It was extremely comfortable and very relaxing.

There's no doubt that the M340i is more engaging, more planted, and has a TON more power, but it's definitely more German on long road trips; it keeps you feeling the road and has you remain engaged in the drive. That being said, the current TLX is on a completely different platform and has a different suspension setup than the Accord, which is a first. That's why my curiosity is piqued.

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Agree on the G70 or IS500. Totally disagree on the Q50 RS. As a former owner of one, it's definitely fast in a straight line. But the second you turn the steering wheel, you realize why it's mostly a forgotten car. They got me with a ridiculous discount and no interest financing, but 2 and a half years into it I was already looking to get out.

I want to also test drive the IS500, but there isn't a Lexus dealership around here, and my last experience with the Lexus IS was that it felt super cramped, both in the front and rear seats. The M340i, by comparison, feels open and airy; it has plenty of room to spread your legs.

[TruthOne]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Agree on the G70 or IS500. Totally disagree on the Q50 RS. As a former owner of one, it's definitely fast in a straight line. But the second you turn the steering wheel, you realize why it's mostly a forgotten car. They got me with a ridiculous discount and no interest financing, but 2 and a half years into it I was already looking to get out.

I had a 2017 red sport also. The handling was atrocious but all that can be solved with springs etc. Its a very easy car to make faster too. You can buy a slightly used one for mid 20's . Well you could before all the current madness with used cars.

[GD1981]

Thought about getting one for the wife to park along side my M340i. But after seeing the reviews and some dealers in the area slap a +$10k “market adjustment”, I said fuck that.

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

There's a YouTube channel by Acura employees called AHC or something and they dragy'd the car three times . Best run was 5.23 seconds. Absolute dog of a car. If you want a Japanese car with some quickness get an Infiniti Q50 red sport or go korean and get a G70 or wait for the New IS500. The type s is heavy and slow as hell and the ONLY people who are praising this car are Acura fanboys on Acura forums or people paid off by Acura like Redline reviews who staged a race with an S4 . He had the never to put the TLX next to a G80 M3 to compare the looks. Made no sense at all.

Redline Reviews is an absolute joke. The dude can't get over himself and his Tesla model 3.

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

I had a 2017 red sport also. The handling was atrocious but all that can be solved with springs etc. Its a very easy car to make faster too. You can buy a slightly used one for mid 20's . Well you could before all the current madness with used cars.

You might as well throw Infiniti right there next to Acura as garbage. Transmissions, aged interiors, steering has always sucked.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

Redline Reviews is an absolute joke. The dude can't get over himself and his Tesla model 3.

He doesn't have a Model 3 anymore.

[TiMSport]

What's he driving nowadays?

[OffK]

This is not an exact comparison, but I have an m340i and my wife has a PMC A-Spec RDX. In just comparing technology, comfort, features, quality, etc...my car blows hers away.

The infotainment and nav are terrible to navigate, and the touchpad is one of the worst I have ever tried to use. It makes no sense, and the lack of a touchscreen is a really poor decision. Her nav is also extremely laggy and the logic it uses will send you well out of a 'normal' route.

I am also not a fan of the gear selector that Acura uses. It is not intuitive at all, and the transmission is sluggish especially between Drive and Reverse. I don't know if the TLX uses the same trans.

The only thing I like better is the RDX is the seats that the PMC gets, they are nice 12 way adjustable seats and I can get them to a nice snug position. They are also ventilated which I miss in my car.

My last complaint is the lack of power. The RDX could really use another +50 horsies, which seems to be the same issue the TLX has. It is just slow and it takes hammering the car to get it going, to the point where I feel I am going to do damage in the long run.

[TruthOne]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

You might as well throw Infiniti right there next to Acura as garbage. Transmissions, aged interiors, steering has always sucked.

Yeah that transmission is the real weak point. The new Nissan Z with the same engine and 6 speed manual is interesting. Not sure why that wasn't offered in the Red Sport. At minimum the Q60.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

What's he driving nowadays?

I believe a Rav4 Prime and a Subaru Forester? Or maybe just one or the other now.

[Benjamin_Nicholas]

Wow... I didn't know it was already April 1st.

Acura, like Infiniti, is what I consider a cheater brand.

Not quite luxury, poor fit & finish and engines/transmissions that make me realize how much better the Germans do it.

[k4sh_90]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Agree on the G70 or IS500. Totally disagree on the Q50 RS. As a former owner of one, it's definitely fast in a straight line. But the second you turn the steering wheel, you realize why it's mostly a forgotten car. They got me with a ridiculous discount and no interest financing, but 2 and a half years into it I was already looking to get out.

I had a Q50 RS a few years back. When my girlfriend and I first started dating, she lived about 45 minutes away from me. All back roads with straights and bends. The Red Sport was so annoying to drive up there. The sport part in the name is there to be a talking point because the sporty was a joke in any situation. Wanna launch off a stop sign? Transmission would rather get you to 7th gear as soon as possible. Wanna take a power line through a bend? Chassis would rather remind you of the rolling seas. I dropped the Q50 to jump into a F30 340i. Although the BMW was the lesser car on paper, that 340 knew how to get to business on them roads.

All in all, it was with the Q50 that I realized that the Acura and Infiniti are just made up names for otherwise regular cars in other markets. Kudos to Acura for cashing in the Type S name. Can't wait to see the fan boys in my rear view mirror.

[CAPCO]

I've owned many Infiniti's as well as a 2012 Acura TL. My last Infiniti before switching to BMW was a 2020 Red Sport. It had an EcuTek tune, ARK exhaust and a heat exchanger. I guess with the tune you could boost the torque way more than the hp because of the turbo's, I'm no expert in this it was my first time having a car tuned but the torque numbers were crazy over stock. Before switching to BMW I always thought Infiniti's and Acura's were great cars, I could never figure out why a lot of reviews on the Red Sport were not that great. After owning my M340 for the past 6-months I now know why, once you review a BMW or German car and then drive a Japanese car there's just no comparison the BMW is so much superior in every way. I see a lot of guys in Japanese cars try to pull along side of me and check my car out, assuming they have never owned a German car before or a BMW because if they did they would have never switched back to Japanese. I always say to myself, boy if you only knew!

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

I had a 2017 red sport also. The handling was atrocious but all that can be solved with springs etc. Its a very easy car to make faster too. You can buy a slightly used one for mid 20's . Well you could before all the current madness with used cars.

Yeah perhaps. But steer by wire and an awful transmission are still issues. Not to mention the decades old infotainment.

[bavarianride]

Originally Posted by GD1981

Thought about getting one for the wife to park along side my M340i. But after seeing the reviews and some dealers in the area slap a +$10k “market adjustment”, I said fuck that.

Local Honda dealers had $3k markup on Accord's, e.g. EX-L $36k, Touring $39k. This is a time when 330i is cheaper than an Accord.