The 2020 M340i xDrive Starts at $56,995 in the US

530iDriver · 12-10-2018, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 440xiGCMSport2

BMW will discount these cars no doubt. The big price increase combined with sedan sales just means big discounts or BMW will sit on stock. Also more and more people are buying electric which will dampen sales.

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Originally Posted by Miko M

It looks like it's a lot but, every generation goes to a price bump. I am sure same discussion happened to a previous generations

Electric cars are not ready for prime time and they don't meet the needs of the vast majority of the population.

And claims about the death of the sedan are greatly exaggerated...

530iDriver · 12-10-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatKrazyPolak

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Originally Posted by Mako

you guys don't think BMW did their research on this? with the huge power bump and new model this is not surprising, if you want something cheaper buy the smaller engine...

the NEW M3 will be starting in the low to mid $70s now, and the performance of this M340i with AWD is going to be pretty damn close to the current M3 on the street (not track).

C43 AMG starts at $54,395 (with dest charge)
DOES NOT INCLUDE LEATHER SEATS, NAV, OR PREMIUM SOUND
Add in the following all Standard on the M340i
LED lights $850
moonroof $1,000
3 years maintenance (30,000 miles) $1,175

Total $57,420

So yeah they are priced where they should be...
in fact $425 less than Mercedes and based on specs I would take the BMW over the Merc right now

If the performance is that close to that of the M3 then tell me who the hell is going to buy this, genius? Some 32 year old single guy that doesn't know he can get an M3 for a few thousand more that's who. Its not about price for performance, that was never the intention of the 3 series. Its about creating a 6 cylinder sedan that is competitive in nature to other manufacturers, not encroach on M3 territory and isolate a buying audience. They should be thinking about selling units of this car not isolating a demographic.

And why the hell are you telling me about a moonroof? Do you honestly think any of us writing here care about a moonroof on an M340? Because there's I want more then to spend $1000 on a moonroof I can only use when the traffic smog in the U.S isn't terrible. Stop being an uninformed shill.

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Originally Posted by Miko M

It looks like it's a lot but, every generation goes to a price bump. I am sure same discussion happened to a previous generations

Hey cool your jets!

I use my moonroof all the time. But then again it is standard equipment in the G30 5-Series!

And hate to tell ya, but at these prices, most US buyers not only want but expect the moonroof as standard equipment.

ThatKrazyPolak · 12-10-2018, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 530iDriver

Hey cool your jets!

I use my moonroof all the time. But then again it is standard equipment in the G30 5-Series!

And hate to tell ya, but at these prices, most US buyers not only want but expect the moonroof as standard equipment.

US buyers that want SUV's not sports sedans.

evo-mike · 12-10-2018, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Araemo

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Originally Posted by evo-mike

I'll pass. So what? 70-75 well equipped? For the entry level sedan? not until some major incentives come out.

It's like they want everyone driving M2Cs. And I'm ok with that.

This isn't the 'entry-level sedan'. If you think it is, the M3 is too.

The differences between the G20 M340i and the G20 320i are probably more like the differences between the E36 325i and the E36 M3. and the 2020 M3 (G80?) is just another level beyond that, performance-wise.

Seriously, the M340 is a great looking car, and if they offered it with a manual, I'd be getting very tempted right about now, despite the price increase.

Without a manual though, and I don't want it unless I have another car with a manual to scratch that itch. And if I have that car, do I really need a do-everything sports sedan, or can I save $20k and get a less awesome car as my daily?

Um, sensatec seats = entry level. Straight from BMW.

Mike drop

guarnibl · 12-10-2018, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmer456

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Originally Posted by RPM90

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Originally Posted by praxis218

For "starting MSRP $56,995" listed at the top, we basically get Sensatec seats, 8.8" iDrive screen with no navigation, comfort access, base audio, the M-Sport goodies, and the garage door opener. Everything else appears optional.

See attached. This is from the LA Auto Show.

So the RWD M340i should be around $55K base and doesn't even include leather and/or the better audio system.

I'm don't need nor want the lux accessories like NAV, or digital dash, or even the "driver aids". My needs are simple, all of the "sport" items that make for the best driving capability and a good sounding audio system. I'll bet BMW does the stupid again, by forcing buyers to get some expensive "premium pkg" in order to get a $900 audio upgrade, making the $900 audio upgrade cost $4000 plus.

Well, as much as I like what I see about the new M340i, BMW has worked their magic by which to lose my future customership.

Hmm....what is the Genesis website again, with the G70, S. Korea may get a new immigrant to their car brand.

Is this US pricing? Here we get premium audio standard. The 2018 starts at around $47k. This is a higher bump in price than an LCI or no change model year but it is justifiable for the improvements.

Wow... so a 15% increase in one year ? Is BMW lining up for a huge increase in the G80?

JayPichardo · 12-10-2018, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pheerIx

I got my almost loaded X3 M40i for $55k

Define "Loaded" the MSRP on mine was $65K

praxis218 · 12-10-2018, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by evo-mike

Um, sensatec seats = entry level. Straight from BMW.

Mike drop

BMW could have at least thrown us a bone and put in the plasticky football leather seats for free. But Vinyl and with polyester/polyurethane covering (alcantara) is just so much cheaper to them.

Too__Hu///Mble · 12-10-2018, 04:23 PM

What was the price difference between the
M550i and M5 is it safe to say the same is going in here M340i and G8x M3?

(Didn't check values unsure if chassis code)

bimmer456 · 12-10-2018, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by guarnibl

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Originally Posted by bimmer456

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Originally Posted by RPM90

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Originally Posted by praxis218

For "starting MSRP $56,995" listed at the top, we basically get Sensatec seats, 8.8" iDrive screen with no navigation, comfort access, base audio, the M-Sport goodies, and the garage door opener. Everything else appears optional.

See attached. This is from the LA Auto Show.

So the RWD M340i should be around $55K base and doesn't even include leather and/or the better audio system.

I'm don't need nor want the lux accessories like NAV, or digital dash, or even the "driver aids". My needs are simple, all of the "sport" items that make for the best driving capability and a good sounding audio system. I'll bet BMW does the stupid again, by forcing buyers to get some expensive "premium pkg" in order to get a $900 audio upgrade, making the $900 audio upgrade cost $4000 plus.

Well, as much as I like what I see about the new M340i, BMW has worked their magic by which to lose my future customership.

Hmm....what is the Genesis website again, with the G70, S. Korea may get a new immigrant to their car brand.

Is this US pricing? Here we get premium audio standard. The 2018 starts at around $47k. This is a higher bump in price than an LCI or no change model year but it is justifiable for the improvements.

Wow... so a 15% increase in one year ? Is BMW lining up for a huge increase in the G80?

It looks like it's for the x drive version per the update on the site. Maybe there is more standard equipment on that version they are forcing you to get vs x drive typically only increases price by $2k or so.

530iDriver · 12-10-2018, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatKrazyPolak

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Originally Posted by 530iDriver

Hey cool your jets!

I use my moonroof all the time. But then again it is standard equipment in the G30 5-Series!

And hate to tell ya, but at these prices, most US buyers not only want but expect the moonroof as standard equipment.

US buyers that want SUV's not sports sedans.

Again generalizing...

530iDriver · 12-10-2018, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by evo-mike

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Originally Posted by Araemo

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Originally Posted by evo-mike

I'll pass. So what? 70-75 well equipped? For the entry level sedan? not until some major incentives come out.

It's like they want everyone driving M2Cs. And I'm ok with that.

This isn't the 'entry-level sedan'. If you think it is, the M3 is too.

The differences between the G20 M340i and the G20 320i are probably more like the differences between the E36 325i and the E36 M3. and the 2020 M3 (G80?) is just another level beyond that, performance-wise.

Seriously, the M340 is a great looking car, and if they offered it with a manual, I'd be getting very tempted right about now, despite the price increase.

Without a manual though, and I don't want it unless I have another car with a manual to scratch that itch. And if I have that car, do I really need a do-everything sports sedan, or can I save $20k and get a less awesome car as my daily?

Um, sensatec seats = entry level. Straight from BMW.

Mike drop

Nothing wrong with Sensatec. Actually prefer it to what they call Dakota leather...

Marco_monti · 12-10-2018, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xlover

Definitely wish it was cheaper. I was hoping the m340 would represent a relative "bargain" in the line up but unfortunately the pricing doesn't seem wildly out of line.

G20 M340 is basically f30 340 + Msport + track handling + MPPSK + LSD (plus the diff is better than the aftersales version and xdrive actually gets the msport suspension)

Loaded up looking at 65, maybe 70 with traffic jam/every tech package.... like the current model a loaded up version will probably run right up to the barebones M3 starting price

The pain is probably going to be felt most when barebones 340 owners go to replace but if you were optioning up your 340 it shouldn't be wildly off expectations considering the added M performance content as standard

for us canadians if its 68k US fully loaded that means its 91k CAD before tax that would make this car 100k for an M340I???

crazy

Mako · 12-10-2018, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatKrazyPolak

If the performance is that close to that of the M3 then tell me who the hell is going to buy this, genius? Some 32 year old single guy that doesn't know he can get an M3 for a few thousand more that's who. Its not about price for performance, that was never the intention of the 3 series. Its about creating a 6 cylinder sedan that is competitive in nature to other manufacturers, not encroach on M3 territory and isolate a buying audience. They should be thinking about selling units of this car, which their clearly not doing now.

And why the hell are you telling us about a moonroof? Do you honestly think any of us writing here care about a moonroof on an M340? Because there's nothing I want more then to spend $1000 on a moonroof I can only use when the traffic smog in the U.S isn't terrible. Stop drinking all the kool aid BMW puts out and go buy some more of their carbon fiber coffee mugs.

Chill dude

did you even read my post

point was comparing apples to apples, the BMW comes standard with a moonroof, the Mercedes does not, meaning you have to add the $1,000 to compare the prices. People like you have ruined the internet

everything about your post was wrong, a M3 with "similar" options will be at least $15,000 more this generation (last generation was), that's a huge jump and not everyone wants everything associated with the M3 (harsh ride for example). BMW has done this for years, M550i did it as well, the new generation top non M comes close in performance to last gen M version. Lots of M3 owners also will buy/lease this inbetween their F80 and G80.

you are confusing this with the 320i/330i which is the volume car, BMW is just following Merc and Audi with these M "versions" Just because you can't afford something, you don't have to rip on it.

SDPLV · 12-10-2018, 04:55 PM

That seems like a lot for a fake M.

F32Fleet · 12-10-2018, 05:07 PM

Not surprised at the price. Size wise it's a five series after all.

530iDriver · 12-10-2018, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Not surprised at the price. Size wise it's a five series after all.

Costs pretty much the same as a new G30 540i

BMthusiast · 12-10-2018, 06:07 PM

This is actually cheaper than what I was expecting for a car with such a massive upgrade in performance from it's predecessor along with the new digital elements. My guess is that this car will do 0-60 in the 4.1/4.2 second range. It will rip!

Refujeet · 12-10-2018, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco_monti

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Originally Posted by xlover

Definitely wish it was cheaper. I was hoping the m340 would represent a relative "bargain" in the line up but unfortunately the pricing doesn't seem wildly out of line.

G20 M340 is basically f30 340 + Msport + track handling + MPPSK + LSD (plus the diff is better than the aftersales version and xdrive actually gets the msport suspension)

Loaded up looking at 65, maybe 70 with traffic jam/every tech package.... like the current model a loaded up version will probably run right up to the barebones M3 starting price

The pain is probably going to be felt most when barebones 340 owners go to replace but if you were optioning up your 340 it shouldn't be wildly off expectations considering the added M performance content as standard

for us canadians if its 68k US fully loaded that means its 91k CAD before tax that would make this car 100k for an M340I???

crazy

The X3 M40 starts at ~61k in Canada. I wouldn't expect this car to be much off of that.

///M4ster Yoda · 12-10-2018, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SDPLV

That seems like a lot for a fake M.

Just about BMWs whole "line up" is filled with fake ///Ms. Sad

M this M that. It's all fake

ThatKrazyPolak · 12-10-2018, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako

Chill dude

did you even read my post

point was comparing apples to apples, the BMW comes standard with a moonroof, the Mercedes does not, meaning you have to add the $1,000 to compare the prices. People like you have ruined the internet

everything about your post was wrong, a M3 with "similar" options will be at least $15,000 more this generation (last generation was), that's a huge jump and not everyone wants everything associated with the M3 (harsh ride for example). BMW has done this for years, M550i did it as well, the new generation top non M comes close in performance to last gen M version. Lots of M3 owners also will buy/lease this inbetween their F80 and G80.

you are confusing this with the 320i/330i which is the volume car, BMW is just following Merc and Audi with these M "versions" Just because you can't afford something, you don't have to rip on it.

It just so happens I can afford it it’s fools like you that try to justify stupid corporate decision making. This is NOT a performance car it’s a fake performance car with a badge slapped on the back, it’s still a 3 series and should be priced as one.

Nobody paying 65K for a 3 series is going to get one because the ride on a comparable M3 is harsh that’s an illogical statement. Your thinking like an enthusiast, not an average consumer. With as much criticism as the existing 3 series has, these guys should be doing whatever possible to move as many 3 series units as possible, volume car or not.

If you want to pay 60K for a sedan with nothing in it, that’s your call, but if you have kids, I feel sorry for them, because with your financial logic those student loans are going to cause them a world of hurt.

M2Cmtl · 12-10-2018, 08:02 PM

Jesus, as others have pointed out, the pricing is in line with the X3 40i... that has less power, not sure who was expecting BMW to sell this for less...

Axman85 · 12-10-2018, 08:12 PM

I wont be buying it or any other BMW. After my F30 has depreciated 75% in 5 years, more than my Honda Pilot with more miles and also 5 years old.

Worst of all, dealer tells my I should get used to oil filter housing gasket replacements every 4-5 years at $1200+. What a joke. Love to drive my 335 but it's not worth it. Thinking the next gen 3 series will also be a dog!

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