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      11-02-2020, 07:55 AM   #111
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I'm interested in only 1 improvement.

A quantum leap improvement in steering feel.
Porsche has some cars you might be interested in
Indeed! Bring the scalpel and a circular saw. Porsche will need one testicle and an arm as a down payment.
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A quantum leap improvement in steering feel.
Porsche has some cars you might be interested in
Hell even Mazda has some cars for that...
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I'm interested in only 1 improvement.

A quantum leap improvement in steering feel.
Porsche has some cars you might be interested in
Indeed! Bring the scalpel and a circular saw. Porsche will need one testicle and an arm as a down payment.
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...and it still looks great today (a little dated, but still an eye-catcher).
Agree, especially in LCI, the E90 and especially the E92 are beauties in my eyes (I know some may feel different).
why are you stirring up shit again?

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It's difficult to stay positive about this car...
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The performance and handling would need to be stellar for me to consider M440i.

This isn't mine, but...
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A car is more than just its 0-60 times.

Meanwhile we have a car that's bigger, heavier, downgrade in tech (8AT), lost distinctive BMW cues and subjectively is an uglier design.

But hey, they made it faster so that means it's "better"
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How come? The ZF8 is a much better trans than the DCT. It's actually daily driveable without rolling everywhere, can handle A LOT more power without any slipping/issues and also is nearly as fast shifting wise as the DCT. Also don't even get me started on the launch control and the struggles the F8x had/has with a DCT, RWD & two turbos. Overall it's a W, and now these cars modded will be holding some heavy power on a STOCK transmission. I'd really like to hear your reasoning. I love the DCT, just excited to see the potential now of this S58 motor with a trans that can hold 🤞🏼
not everyone agrees with the 8at being a downgrade in tech, including prior f82 owners, fwiw.
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Huge fan of Black 🖤 wheels/rims! The problem is BMW is offering them in glossy black with a very tacky clear-coat which is an absolute pain to keep clean 🧽.

BMW the black rims should be a satin or matte finish!
You can always get the M performance 20 inch matte black wheels
Yes, of course but at more cost 💸. We shouldn't have to spend more money to get rims without a tacky clear-coat.
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True. But the F8x was the first time the weight went DOWN. It was obvious where the design philosphy of the car was for.

If I wanted a car to scream look at me, I would put a stupid racing stripe on it.
the weight of the F8x did not go down if you compare apples to apples spec wise and BMW cooked the numbers some .
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I think we're in violent agreement.

An increase in size and weight is bad and a negative attribute of this design.

Plus it looks ugly as sin.
In otherwords you think E46 M3 outperforms E9x M3
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the weight of the F8x did not go down if you compare apples to apples spec wise and BMW cooked the numbers some .
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In otherwords you think E46 M3 outperforms E9x M3
That's not what I said, at all...

Considering many still consider the E46 as the pinnacle of M3s.

It's simple, if you think a vehicle that continually gets larger and heavier is a postive performance attribute, especially when looking at the motorsports aspect, I've got a bridge to sell you. You can make those cars faster, but you have to make everything bigger as well. It makes them more expensive to buy, more expensive to maintain, more expensive to track, etc.
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This other Joe points out some design elements. I highly agree if it's not functional it has ZERO need to be there.

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This other Joe points out some design elements. I highly agree if it's not functional it has zero need to be there.

Design, in general, is not always about functionality. Expression is an essential component.
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No offense to him but I saw another post where he said the E46 didn't impress him so he lost credibility in my book
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It's difficult to stay positive about this car...
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The performance and handling would need to be stellar for me to consider M440i.

This isn't mine, but...
Now THAT is a beautiful design - timeless, gimmick-free, all features in proportion. Unlike it's replacement....*sighs*
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I've just come back from my local dealer today,it looks miles better in the flesh
This is a great looking car
I came from the dealer as well.
It looks the same in person: Horrible.
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I came from the dealer as well.
It looks the same in person: Horrible.
Went to the dealer the other day and my vote is for looks much better in person.

I’m getting an M440. Not yet, but soon.
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