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I have almost 16k miles on my car, always in sport mode and driving it very spirited. Outside of the normal service somewhere around 8k, I have not had to add any oil. My N/S63 vehicles, always had some oil around as they wouldn't make a 10k service without adding oil.
These guys must really be ragging this 340 out!
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I had 3k no oil issue but had to add coolant 3k...
Had dealer put the car on lift overnight (3k one year so was also the time to do oil change any way). nothing came back, still troubling though... their answer went from it past the test/no leakage/maybe it wasn't fully filled at factory In any case will check again at 2nd oil change, hopefully the coolant thing doesn't come up again |
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The E39 with I6 (528i, 530i) had R&P steering while the V8's (540i, M5) had recirculating ball...as I recall something to do with packaging or space constraints in the front subframe due to the size of the engine. My 2 E39 528i's had good steering, but nothing like my E46 ZHP after them.
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This car is objectively very good if not excellent in some areas, but I found it quite boring to drive. It's like a fast limo. The steering is responsive but utterly devoid of any road feedback or resistance on turn. They added some artificial weight for the sake of adding heft but it feels like a video game. This combined with the sheer massive size of it relegates it off my buying list.
Basically this car has little in common with the last great 3-series, the E90. I maintain that the M2 is the only BMW that still drives like a BMW. The steering is the weak point but it's still better than any othe EPS rack I've driven.
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Interestingly, my very first BMW was a 2001 e46 325i, and I remember some early production cycles had a light/boosted feel, but they corrected by the time I took delivery of my car (2001 May build) in Munich before they finished construction of Welt. You may very well be right here, but pretty much every car these days, including Porsche, has a steering-by-wire electronic setup. I think tuning the electronic feedback probably can improve the feel, which I assume can be done via SW. I think it's just that BMW is either not prioritizing it enough, or comfort is now the overriding characteristic over all else at BMW. |
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I did just get rid of a B9 2017 A4 though and it also burned a little oil, but more like a quart every 10k. |
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My S5 is burning oil too. Not enough for me to have to top it off though.
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Clearly steering of modern BMWs is harshly criticized. I don't race cars, but I do enjoy swinging through twisties on back roads. I drive around 40k miles a year and a good portion of that is back road fun. I don't find the steering to negatively affect performance in this respect. Is this a thing that is just a preference, or does the "feel" and road surface "feedback" to the steering wheel really inform a driver in a way that allows them to take a corner faster? Is it the weight on the wheel that builds progressively the harder you go that people desire? Admittedly, I don't drive a lot of sports oriented cars, so I just may not have the experience to understand it.
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oh gee...
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The guys reviewing must b benz owners.. or worse vw .. Esteban
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I've never added a drop of oil to my Bimmers (other than what shops and dealerships added for maintenance). Now I feel like I've done something wrong lol
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Yup... and that's about the only car that comes to mind
My last car was actually a Q50 and had steer-by-wire. After all the negative feedback, steer-by-wire did not find its way into very many cars, and the vast majority of modern cars still utilize rack & pinion setup, albeit electronically boosted.
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