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      07-26-2019, 11:49 AM   #23
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I would believe it, but how is Genesis number 3? Who does that appeal to as a brand?
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I would believe it, but how is Genesis number 3? Who does that appeal to as a brand?
It must be the service experience that is impressing these owners.

I've never driven one so I have no idea how good they are.
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This survey seems to be based on car owners' enthusiasm for their cars. It would be nice if the reliability rankings were similar to these rankings.
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I would believe it, but how is Genesis number 3? Who does that appeal to as a brand?
They’re not number 3, they’re tied for number 2 with BMW
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Jaydee Powah. Fire up the initial satisfaction and reliability surveys!
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      07-26-2019, 01:42 PM   #29
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Tesla doesn't make the list. Is it not considered a luxury car? They didn't survey enough of the 400k plus owners lol. Exclusion by discrimination against EVs
pls read the whole report including footnote
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Volvo making some really nice cars these days so I'm not surprised they are so high up. Their interiors are great, especially their seats imo. If driving experience wasn't so high on the list then i'd probably be quite happy in a Volvo for comfort.
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wheres tesla?
As it says in the notes below the graphic:

"Not included in the ranking due to unrepresentative sample size is Tesla."
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Uhh "apeal" is not a ranking for "most appealing".

It's a multi-faceted rating for various things....
Right. It's an attempt to measure and compare the "emotional attachment" owners have for their vehicle.

IMO the rankings make sense.
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This survey seems to be based on car owners' enthusiasm for their cars. It would be nice if the reliability rankings were similar to these rankings.
Indeed. It would be interesting and probably confirm what we already know which is that luxury car owners love their bells and whistles but predominantly lease.
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A formula to improve appealing: give more curves to rear fenders (remember m6GC?). My current m5 has as much as bulging fender as the Subaru parks next to it!
Also a 400-500 hp mid engine i8tish looking car does not hurt either.
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Genesis is 3rd so I call BS.
What the hell is genesis anyway?
Wait till they come out with an SUV (that's what most people buy nowadays)
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Infiniti is so f*cked up right now it's not even funny.

And Nissan is an absolute train wreck.
I hear you. Nissan/Infiniti is in trouble specially after CEO drama/arrest
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I would believe it, but how is Genesis number 3? Who does that appeal to as a brand?
It must be the service experience that is impressing these owners.

I've never driven one so I have no idea how good they are.
Not here to defend Genesis (don't own one, own 2 bmw's), but their G70 made C&D's top 10 list. Guess what's not on that list? 3 series.
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Lol will never happen. Porsche are the kings of the automotive landscape. every car they make is best in class across the board and has been for decade now. BMW gave them a great run for their money in the previous decade and then completely sold out to mass appeal without a silver lining (see: Porsche's dominance in the SUV category for their breadwinners, while using the gains to keep their legacy of making the best sports cars).
Agreed.
PORSCHE is top of the game and top German automotive brand.
At least BMW came second and beating Mercedes, Volkswagen, Audi.
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Infiniti is so f*cked up right now it's not even funny.

And Nissan is an absolute train wreck.
I hear you. Nissan/Infiniti is in trouble specially after CEO drama/arrest
The tables are turning. Nissan has screwed themselves.

Like the CEO of Mitsubishi said they will find no one to replace him.

Ghosn filed a 17 million Dollar lawsuit against Nissan & Mitsubishi in the Netherlands and he will win.
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I would believe it, but how is Genesis number 3? Who does that appeal to as a brand?
It must be the service experience that is impressing these owners.

I've never driven one so I have no idea how good they are.
Not here to defend Genesis (don't own one, own 2 bmw's), but their G70 made C&D's top 10 list. Guess what's not on that list? 3 series.
Valid Point.

First time BMW isn't on that list in my lifetime.
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Genesis is 3rd so I call BS.

Genesis is tied for 2nd with BMW.

There, I fixed it for you, and now you can relax.
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