[Medal]

Originally Posted by notleks64

Remember when a BMW was identifiable when looking in your rear view mirror. Now a days a BMW looks so generic and so boring . Bring back Angel Eyes or Corona rings they were BMW

…and those perfect and basic round Speedo and tach. I still don’t understand why a digital version isn’t an available option

[PeterWT]

I was waiting for the LCI, to see if they would improve the front end of the G22.
If those really are the LCI headlights, then they managed to ruin the only good looking part of the front end of the pre-LCI G22.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

You are welcome to leave anytime you want. Don’t let the door hit you in the butt.

Why would I leave?
This is a BMW forum. I’ve been driving BMWs for 15 years. Is the purpose of this forum to hate on every single new thing, insult and attack everyone around them - like designers, engineers and buyers? Someone even wrote I can’t be “saved” because I went from M cars to ix. I'm sorry these people exist, let alone hang in forums. I have absolutely no problem with not liking something. But when you write as if your opinion or taste is the only one that matters, BMW design and cars went downhill AFTER whenever you bought yours, is toxic, egotistical, idiotic. Real measures like sales, surveys, reliability statistics suggest BMW is doing better than ever right now, relative to the competition. There’s never been a time when BMW was winning against competition in almost every category: looking at critical ‘consensus’ on 3,5,X3,X5,X7,i4,i5,iX,i7, they are all winning against all their competitors. Looking at sales, customer satisfaction and reliability surveys; BMW is ahead as well. This never happened before! Not in 80s, not in 90s, not in 2000s, not in 2010s. These are hard facts, but one can like analogue era, so for that particular person a classic like E36 M3 which didn’t even have stability control would be better. But that doesn’t mean everything after that model sucks, designers should be fired, BMW should be making 1994 M3s forever. That just means your taste doesn’t align with 2023.

[PeterWT]

Originally Posted by toddwalton

...They've made the 3 Series boring and they've made the 4 Series exaggerated so anyone wanting a four door sedan has that choice. It's very smart. Can't see why anyone could ever complain...

I think the current 3 and the previous gen 5 are by far the best looking cars BMW currently makes or has recently made.
I think the front end of the current 4 is hideous and BMW didn't make a previous gen 6. I wish they did. I would own one right now.
BUT, I don't buy 4 door cars.
THAT is "why anyone could ever complain".

[EXE46]

Originally Posted by KoenG

By which objective measure, the F30 was the worst ever?

Driving dynamics, the most fundamental characteristic. As someone who actually owned an E36/E46 back in the E46Fanatics glory days. The F30 was what drove me away from BMW to the competition. As far as today's design, I do find some polarizing but there are still a few I like hence why I have had my G20 for more than 4 years now.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by KoenG

By which objective measure, the F30 was the worst ever?

Driving dynamics, critical acclaim, sales.
That was the only time 3 series was losing to competitors in every single comparison test. G20 isn’t, E90 didn’t. E46 didn’t,E36 didn’t.
F30 isn’t awful, it’s still a well engineered German sedan. It’s just the worst 3 series BMW made so far.

[IcewaterPete]

Originally Posted by csboi

To be fair, the Bimmerpost app keeps shoving these useless threads about the ugly parts for the ugly cars down our throats. That's also unbearable.

Very true, but it is click bait that none of us seem to be able to avoid. Plus it brings in huge numbers of posts that turn into dollars for them. So...it will continue...

[IcewaterPete]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

I just wish these trolls with old cars jumping in every thread saying that 'BMW is dead, BMW designers should be fired blah blah' just shut up.
I mean negativism and cynicism in every single thread makes this place unbearable.

Actually, what makes this place unbearable is the poor use of grammar...

I highly doubt you owned an 11 foot long E92, a 15 foot long F82, an 18 foot long G30, a 20 foot long G20 and a 24 foot long I20.

11’ E92 ///M3
15’ F82 ///M4
18’ G30 540i ///Msport
21’ G20 ///M340i
24' i20 iX xDrive50

[KoenG]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

Driving dynamics, critical acclaim, sales.
That was the only time 3 series was losing to competitors in every single comparison test. G20 isn’t, E90 didn’t. E46 didn’t,E36 didn’t.
F30 isn’t awful, it’s still a well engineered German sedan. It’s just the worst 3 series BMW made so far.

It was the best 3 series up til that point. That competitors all chose to attack the bmw 3 on "vehicle dynamics" having all of a sudden A4s being equipped with sports suspensions, and MB C-class with dynamic suspensions is not an argument to say "it"s the worst 3 ever" (since in reality it was the best ever). You could state alternatively, it was the generation that was least capable to make the difference on the level of sportiness. I tend to agree with that.

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by Idontliketrying

Anybody ever see those shitty Ikons design for people with the halogen or Pre LCI F cars? This reminds me of the same thing or the people who try to turn they’re base lights to laser

What in the hell are you trying to say here, buddy???

[KoenG]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

Why would I leave?

Because you suggest no less that others should leave or just STFU because they have their own opinion about the design trend of BMW!!??

[Idontliketrying]

Originally Posted by DFW_M

What in the hell are you trying to say here, buddy???

OSS design and a few other companies can turn your non lasers into lasers kinda like the picture attached but I attached a link to a vid on a g chassis car https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0CkK...YzOWQzNmJjMA==

[Seba77W]

Originally Posted by IcewaterPete

Actually, what makes this place unbearable is the poor use of grammar...

I highly doubt you owned an 11 foot long E92, a 15 foot long F82, an 18 foot long G30, a 20 foot long G20 and a 24 foot long I20.

11’ E92 ///M3
15’ F82 ///M4
18’ G30 540i ///Msport
21’ G20 ///M340i
24' i20 iX xDrive50

Man I love the iX ! Had it for a month as a loaner when I was waiting for my g22 M440i which I love too! Coming from an F32 435ix. I did not like the new deign when this current generation BMW came out but man it’s grown on me a lot. These definitely look a lot better in person and everything else out previously is starting to look dated. As far as I’m concerned no matter what they look like BMW is still making great cars!

[NLJ]

This stupid snake eyes needs to go! Too far of a departure from the sweet halo lights of the iconic BMWs!

[BMWnation]

Wait…….is there only one headlight beam per light? It appears so based on the angles of the pictures but can’t really tell? That would be a very big departure from the current model.
Also, the heat sink at the back kinda looks like it is only one?

[BMWnation]

Originally Posted by BMWnation

Wait…….is there only one headlight beam per light? It appears so based on the angles of the pictures but can’t really tell? That would be a very big departure from the current model.
Also, the heat sink at the back kinda looks like it is only one?

I think I just answered my own question ^ it’s only one main beam per headlight.

[Custom Install]

Originally Posted by notleks64

Remember when a BMW was identifiable when looking in your rear view mirror. Now a days a BMW looks so generic and so boring . Bring back Angel Eyes or Corona rings they were BMW.

Sure you’re not confusing the brand with Merc or Audi?
You’d have a valid argument then, the talked about issue on this platform seems the exact opposite.
People can’t stomach the radical design changes mostly, each model has a standalone design. (Unlike the two above)

[Lady Jane]

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by carbonblackfun

Very well written but you’re contradicting yourself by stating 3 as boring and 4 as an exaggerated design because you said earlier it depends on the buyer.

Certainly it depends on the buyer, but I was speaking from BMW's perspective, that instead of making a decision on the future of the 3 Sedan to be either boring (predictable) or tryhard (exaggerated) they would just do both at the same time. Which they have.

What each car means to each of us is a personal decision. But BMW did it for business reasons. Instead of upsetting half the owners, they appease them both with conservatism or aggression, pick the one you like best.

Originally Posted by carbonblackfun

For me 3 is timeless and 4 is trying too hard.
Also, timeless can’t be boring.

Timeless can be extremely boring if one doesn't also have alternatives. After 12 years in F30's, F33's, and F36's, I needed a change. The G26 kept me in BMW's instead of straying to another brand out of boredom.

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by EXE46

Driving dynamics, the most fundamental characteristic. As someone who actually owned an E36/E46 back in the E46Fanatics glory days. The F30 was what drove me away from BMW to the competition. As far as today's design, I do find some polarizing but there are still a few I like hence why I have had my G20 for more than 4 years now.

To be realistic, the G20 is the most boring generation of the 3-series -- numb, lifeless...fast (so is freiking Model 3).
Although the handling was vastly improved over the F30, everything else was numbed down... I lasted 6 months with it and thankfully unloaded THE LEASE when the shortages started...

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by KoenG

I also have a G26 and every day I ask myself why they had to mutilate the frontend with that fugly grill. Also the rest of the car is more lexus styled than BMW. When you think that's innovation that's ok, I just believe it's poor design. BTW, I didn't opt for the 3 since there is no i3 edrive 40 offered.

Not sure if you have the M-Sport or Shadowline or what paint color, but my G26 looks great to me. All the proper heritage of the F36 and enough new pizzaz to keep it interesting. I get more looks, thumbs-up, and compliments from random people on this car than any other BMW I have ever owned. I like that.

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by PeterWT

I think the current 3 and the previous gen 5 are by far the best looking cars BMW currently makes or has recently made.
I think the front end of the current 4 is hideous and BMW didn't make a previous gen 6. I wish they did. I would own one right now.
BUT, I don't buy 4 door cars.
THAT is "why anyone could ever complain".

BMW makes a 2 Series Coupe just for you. And its dimensions are pretty much 'classic' gen 3 Series too. Enjoy.