[Straykiwi]

When Liam Lawson said during the post race interview, "I don't know what happened, Carlos was behind me, yet somehow he finished 10th..." I thought, yes Liam, we are in the exact same situation except you were in a F1 car and I was at home watching the TV feed.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Straykiwi

When Liam Lawson said during the post race interview, "I don't know what happened, Carlos was behind me, yet somehow he finished 10th..." I thought, yes Liam, we are in the exact same situation except you were in a F1 car and I was at home watching the TV feed.

we have a much better grasp of what's happening in the race, these drivers have no idea who is beside them half the time, the cockpit is super claustrophobic and you have no idea who is where on the grid on what tyres ...

his race engineer is also a bit of a tool, not that Liam is appearing to be that far above average though, Hadjar seems to have him beat more often than not

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Davil

It would have been nice to have actually seen it on the coverage. Or seen his 5 overtakes. Or Carlos’ overtakes. Instead we were treated to long zooms of drivers’ girlfriends.

[HFW003]

No sour grapes here

[Artemis]

Q3 final lap telemetry: Verstappen - Russell.

It was close, until Norris required Verstappen to abandon his final Q3 lap. Not sure whether Verstappen could have snatched pole position – we'll never know. Sooner or later Verstappen will get the bill settled with Norris. Pole position in Singapore is a big option to bag 25 WDC points.

[HeelToeShift]

Not really an exciting race but super fun being there. Think Max def showed how a slower car is faster with him as the McLaren was still the faster car in race pace. Had Max not had Nor there in quali I think he’d have had like and the win. Need more McLaren DNFs to come.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Old popular thread here at Bimmerpost (63 pages - 1.4 million views):
"I can't believe you've done this"
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=253118

Alonso still cannot believe what happened in 2007:

If it wasn't for the 5 second off track penalty for LEW, Fernie would have erupted twice as much.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

If it wasn't for the 5 second off track penalty for LEW, Fernie would have erupted twice as much.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by dfox

I'm fully convinced that the anti-Checo fans have just switched to being anti-Lando. They just need someone to hate. Journalists need clicks, and Lando is this year's scapegoat.

Piastri looked really weak trying to beg McLaren to tell Norris to give the place back. Pulling the audio while being congratulated was pretty immature. He's still got some growing up to do.

[///M Power-Belgium]

McLaren

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

That was too close, NOR was hoping.

[3798j]

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[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

McLaren

Stella: ''You're free to race but with no contact.

Piastri: ''I want a stewards' on that.

Norris:''You have my sympathies''

[dfox]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

And does Tsunoda get added to that list for 2025? Checo has been Max's best teammate ever. Cant blame him for a shitty car, he did a lot with it, a lot more than pretty much anyone else has.

Originally Posted by Artemis

Q3 final lap telemetry: Verstappen - Russell.

It was close, until Norris required Verstappen to abandon his final Q3 lap. Not sure whether Verstappen could have snatched pole position – we'll never know. Sooner or later Verstappen will get the bill settled with Norris. Pole position in Singapore is a big option to bag 25 WDC points.

Question: is what Norris did against any rules?

Max has been penalized a lot over the years for dirty moves against Norris, but this seems to be a nothingburger that the media and social media influencers want to grab a hold of because they need your clicks.

Man, the anti-norris crowd really are crybabies.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by dfox

And does Tsunoda get added to that list for 2025? Checo has been Max's best teammate ever. Cant blame him for a shitty car, he did a lot with it, a lot more than pretty much anyone else has.



Question: is what Norris did against any rules?

Max has been penalized a lot over the years for dirty moves against Norris, but this seems to be a nothingburger that the media and social media influencers want to grab a hold of because they need your clicks.

Man, the anti-norris crowd really are crybabies.

Yuki didn't crashed like the KitKat man a big 'multi-$Million hole in the Red Bull budget cap.
The balance issues of the RB21 are now much worse than in 2024, especially in the first half of this 2025 season .
It's not just Yuki .Would like to see Norris or Piastri driving in the RB21...

No hate here vs Norris and Piastri ...
But the McLaren race strategy and the ridiculous calls makes the current situation (tension and pressure) for the McLaren drivers even worse.
The McLaren race strategy sounds and looks like beginners mistakes (!)
And I'm pretty sure , they won't change it and the $Million question at the McLaren Team is :
Who is currently the #1 driver at McLaren ? And that really s@cks (!)
And then you get just what you can see below ...

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yuki didn't crashed like the KitKat man a big 'multi-$Million hole in the Red Bull budget cap.
The balance issues of the RB21 are now much worse than in 2024, especially in the first half of this 2025 season .
It's not just Yuki .Would like to see Norris or Piastri driving in the RB21...

No hate here vs Norris and Piastri ...
But the McLaren race strategy and the ridiculous calls makes the current situation (tension and pressure) for the McLaren drivers even worse.
The McLaren race strategy sounds and looks like beginners mistakes (!)
And I'm pretty sure , they won't change it and the $Million question at the McLaren Team is :
Who is currently the #1 driver at McLaren ? And that really s@cks (!)
And then you get just what you can see below ...

Agreed, I don’t hate Checo but expected more out of him. In hindsight he was dealt a crappy hand with a $hitty car.

Like many here I don’t hate Lando!!! I simply like Oscar better

Now, papaya rules get on my last nerve. With the WCC in hand I expect the gloves will come off within reason. I hope MCL lets them race unless they go piling up a bunch of cars.

[dfox]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yuki didn't crashed like the KitKat man a big 'multi-$Million hole in the Red Bull budget cap.
The balance issues of the RB21 are now much worse than in 2024, especially in the first half of this 2025 season .
It's not just Yuki .Would like to see Norris or Piastri driving in the RB21...

Checo was pushing the car beyond its and his limits to try to get results. Yuki isn't crashing because he doesn't know how to push the car beyond it's limits and honestly the media has left Yuki alone, instead of constantly calling for him to be fired. Checo pulled a ton of great points in the early part of '24 before the car went south. They appear to have gotten better at setting up the car now that Horner is gone and Max is showing it, but Yuki is still nowhere to be seen - Checo was at least scoring points (when he wasn't crashing )

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

No hate here vs Norris and Piastri ...
But the McLaren race strategy and the ridiculous calls makes the current situation (tension and pressure) for the McLaren drivers even worse.
The McLaren race strategy sounds and looks like beginners mistakes (!)
And I'm pretty sure , they won't change it and the $Million question at the McLaren Team is :
Who is currently the #1 driver at McLaren ? And that really s@cks (!)
And then you get just what you can see below ...

Honestly, I think all of this drama is because of Piastri's contract and Mark Webber being a thorn in everyone's side. Betting that once Norris got wind of the language Piastri has, he fought for the same thing. Put Piastri in next to Max and I think you'd be seeing a lot of the same issues, but Max isn't going to be as nice about it as Norris.

I was really glad to see Norris deny Piastri the first pit stop and then see Piastri get stuck with the shitty pit stop, pro move from him. Would have resulted in a similar issue to Italy and would have put the team in a tough spot.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by dfox

Checo was pushing the car beyond its and his limits to try to get results. Yuki isn't crashing because he doesn't know how to push the car beyond it's limits and honestly the media has left Yuki alone, instead of constantly calling for him to be fired. Checo pulled a ton of great points in the early part of '24 before the car went south. They appear to have gotten better at setting up the car now that Horner is gone and Max is showing it, but Yuki is still nowhere to be seen - Checo was at least scoring points (when he wasn't crashing )

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

You could say the tequila man was flying high there

[Straykiwi]

Originally Posted by G30M

we have a much better grasp of what's happening in the race, these drivers have no idea who is beside them half the time, the cockpit is super claustrophobic and you have no idea who is where on the grid on what tyres ...

his race engineer is also a bit of a tool, not that Liam is appearing to be that far above average though, Hadjar seems to have him beat more often than not

Oh I agree, my comment was an indictment of the crappy choices made by the TV director. A lot of meaningful racing was simply not shown.

[dfox]

Max has a pretty good compilation too...

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=dfox;32387093]Max has a pretty good compilation too...

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Silverstone? Italy? hit from behind, tripped by HAM oh come on, virtually all of those were not MAX's doing