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      03-17-2020, 08:07 AM   #287
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Hi, just to bump the thread. Today i Poland is 15 deg C, I changed my winter wheels to summer ones. As suspected the noise stayed and is exactly the same. Once again noticed that the intensity is different on different types of asphalt.

One of the Polish car journalists published recently on yt a review of G21 330xi M-sport, seems that it was equipped with M-sport brakes (screenshot from yt in attachment). One of the many many praises regarding the car was how incredibly quiet the ride is. I am sure that if the noise issue was present he would have noticed it.

Am I right to assume that due to the current situation in Europe, the BMW will not send its people anywhere and the work on the issue is on hold?
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Hi, just to bump the thread. Today i Poland is 15 deg C, I changed my winter wheels to summer ones. As suspected the noise stayed and is exactly the same. Once again noticed that the intensity is different on different types of asphalt.

One of the Polish car journalists published recently on yt a review of G21 330xi M-sport, seems that it was equipped with M-sport brakes (screenshot from yt in attachment). One of the many many praises regarding the car was how incredibly quiet the ride is. I am sure that if the noise issue was present he would have noticed it.

Am I right to assume that due to the current situation in Europe, the BMW will not send its people anywhere and the work on the issue is on hold?
That's correct. No travelling before the virus situation is under control.
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      03-18-2020, 01:45 AM   #288
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They have had my car for over 3 months now.........
Seriously?!

I've been a BMW guy all my adult life and only drive BMW's. This might be the end to new BMW's for me (My E30 is a keeper though ;-)).
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      03-18-2020, 07:04 AM   #289
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Could any of you guys post some video with the sound of this ?

I think I may have it too, but to me it's just like very loud road/tire noise, like there was no isolation at all. On some asphalts it's a bit better, but 99% of the time, it's clearly heard.

I have a double-glass and am on winter staggered 18" wheels - bmw oem with pirelli sottozero 3 run-flats.
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      03-19-2020, 02:01 AM   #290
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Could any of you guys post some video with the sound of this ?

I think I may have it too, but to me it's just like very loud road/tire noise, like there was no isolation at all. On some asphalts it's a bit better, but 99% of the time, it's clearly heard.

I have a double-glass and am on winter staggered 18" wheels - bmw oem with pirelli sottozero 3 run-flats.
It sounds like tire noise..

My dealer mentioned something about adding extra dampening to the car, but don't think they've tried it yet.
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      03-28-2020, 12:58 AM   #291
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I’m finally free! No more G21 for me! I wish you all good luck and I’m leaving this part of the forum and moving to G31.

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      03-28-2020, 07:34 AM   #292
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Congratulations! Which variant of the G31 have you got?
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      03-28-2020, 03:52 PM   #293
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      03-30-2020, 01:51 AM   #294
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I’m finally free! No more G21 for me! I wish you all good luck and I’m leaving this part of the forum and moving to G31.
How did you manage that? Did it cost you anything or?
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      03-30-2020, 01:55 AM   #295
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Btw, I picked up my car last week as I've totally lost any hope of them ever fixing it. However, they won't give me a discount in leasing or anything. Ohh, and their super mechanics also managed to fuck up something else, so above 90 km/h there's a bad rumble. My 6-year old daughter thinks it sounds like an open window?!
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How did you manage that? Did it cost you anything or?
I just refused to pick it up from the dealer this last time and demanded a new car. Did not cost me any money, but a lot of energy and time
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i just read something interesting. The first letter in the last 7 digits of our VIN numbers indicates where the car was produced. All of the VIN's I have received from you guys all start with F, which means the cars were produced in Dingolfing. Other cars are produced in Munich.

I'm wondering if it could be a production error, only happening in Dingolfing, hence why some owner don't seem to have issues?
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i just read something interesting. The first letter in the last 7 digits of our VIN numbers indicates where the car was produced. All of the VIN's I have received from you guys all start with F, which means the cars were produced in Dingolfing. Other cars are produced in Munich.

I'm wondering if it could be a production error, only happening in Dingolfing, hence why some owner don't seem to have issues?
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i just read something interesting. The first letter in the last 7 digits of our VIN numbers indicates where the car was produced. All of the VIN's I have received from you guys all start with F, which means the cars were produced in Dingolfing. Other cars are produced in Munich.

I'm wondering if it could be a production error, only happening in Dingolfing, hence why some owner don't seem to have issues?
That's a really interesting observation! Have you talked to BAG about this?
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      04-01-2020, 03:35 PM   #299
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My dealer finally got a reply from BMW Germany.

They are acknowledging the problem. Reassuring it is only a cosmetic issue but which will still have highest priority once the Corona crisis and restrictions are over.

BTW, my seven digit VIN also starts with an F....
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My dealer finally got a reply from BMW Germany.

They are acknowledging the problem. Reassuring it is only a cosmetic issue but which will still have highest priority once the Corona crisis and restrictions are over.

BTW, my seven digit VIN also starts with an F....
Yeah, that's what I was told too a month ago or so. The shop truly believes the German engineer can fix the problem, so maybe BMW already know what the problem is? I don't know.. I just want the damn car fixed :-)
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      04-02-2020, 03:30 AM   #301
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Hi.

Anyone from Denmark with FDM membership who have asked FDM lawyers (or can ask them) how much time is acceptable to allow BMW to troubleshoot before the lease can be cancelled without costs and with the initial "one-time" deposit refunded ?
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      04-02-2020, 03:35 AM   #302
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Yeah, that's what I was told too a month ago or so. The shop truly believes the German engineer can fix the problem, so maybe BMW already know what the problem is? I don't know.. I just want the damn car fixed :-)
4 month waiting time until now...if it is "only" cosmetic.... is that the way to take care of a loyal customer ?

Maybe the "Specialist" will just bring some duct tape to fix it
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      04-02-2020, 03:38 AM   #303
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My car also have the "F"-VINnumber....

Do we know for sure...that they produce the 330i M-sport Touring both in Dingolfing and Munich ?
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      04-02-2020, 12:00 PM   #304
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I'm waiting for my car to be built in München. 330i Touring.
Production Plant: 01 - Muenchen.

So it seems like it is possible.
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I'm waiting for my car to be built in München. 330i Touring.
Production Plant: 01 - Muenchen.

So it seems like it is possible.
Is it an M-Sport model?
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Hi.

Anyone from Denmark with FDM membership who have asked FDM lawyers (or can ask them) how much time is acceptable to allow BMW to troubleshoot before the lease can be cancelled without costs and with the initial "one-time" deposit refunded ?
I do not have an FDM membership.
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I have a new finding btw (The never ending story...)

When i reverse (maybe also forward driving) out of a drive way in gravel - the noise is there too?! So, small vibrations must cause the issue. I'm wondering if they tried putting the car on a lift and at the same time put pressure on the tyre somehow (to compress the suspension) while turning the wheel.

Could some of you try driving in gravel at low speed (Like 5-10 km/h) and tell if yours noisy as well?
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      04-03-2020, 04:23 AM   #308
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Is it an M-Sport model?
Yes, forgot to mention it.

Let's see when I finally receive it. It was planned to be produced two weeks ago in Munich.
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