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      10-05-2019, 12:13 PM   #23
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I think he got it right. I’d be biased toward the Alfa since it’s the only truly sporty car there, but it’s hard to live with the typical FCA cheap interior and overall lackluster build quality.

The Bimmer is the best all rounder for sure.

My dad is was in the market and couldn’t find a “sport” sedan in this class that was as fun to drive and as luxurious as his E90...so he got a Macan S. It’s got a better combination of driving dynamics and interior/build quality than any of these cars could dream of.
Agreed.

That's a given.

Porsche is on a entirely different level.
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I think he got it right. I'd be biased toward the Alfa since it's the only truly sporty car there, but it's hard to live with the typical FCA cheap interior and overall lackluster build quality.

The Bimmer is the best all rounder for sure.

My dad is was in the market and couldn't find a "sport" sedan in this class that was as fun to drive and as luxurious as his E90...so he got a Macan S. It's got a better combination of driving dynamics and interior/build quality than any of these cars could dream of.
Agreed.

That's a given.

Porsche is on a entirely different level.
Not so fast....you want practicality and a great drive...
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I was gonna watch until I saw it was a 320d. LAME
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I was gonna watch until I saw it was a 320d. LAME
Carwow is UK based and that's the base car over there, why would you expect otherwise
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Agreed.

That's a given.

Porsche is on a entirely different level.
I can only imagine if Porsche made a smaller sedan, at least something in the mid-size segment. I'd be sold on it immediately.

It's amazing how a compact CUV is more fun to drive than the other German "sport" sedans. My buddy has a C43 coupe and you can turn the wheel with a finger.
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I can only imagine if Porsche made a smaller sedan, at least something in the mid-size segment. I'd be sold on it immediately.

It's amazing how a compact CUV is more fun to drive than the other German "sport" sedans. My buddy has a C43 coupe and you can turn the wheel with a finger.
Compared with the new 3er it's more fun to drive?
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Remember time is also a factor of build quality. I will admit that the G20 does have some cheap plastics inside but this is an entry level car anyway. Or maybe not nowadays. The 3er was never luxurious. I can't see picking an SUV with higher center of gravity over my M340i but then maybe utility is high on ones priority list.
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They tested a 320d this means nothing. Where the 330i at?
Well....It has a ///M badge on it !
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Remember time is also a factor of build quality. I will admit that the G20 does have some cheap plastics inside but this is an entry level car anyway. Or maybe not nowadays. The 3er was never luxurious. I can't see picking an SUV with higher center of gravity over my M340i but then maybe utility is high on ones priority list.
Some people prefer being higher from the road when they drive.

They were referencing the macan too, so it's probably just more of the Porsche worship that's typical on this site. On this site Porsche and Tesla reign supreme.
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The Giulia is a POS. I don't know why they keep making reviews like this.
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I know this is subjective and personal taste but i think the Giulia is pretty generic looking. Doesn't stand out nor does it look that distinguishable. At least not in 2019.

S60 on the other hand is gorgeous. I was ready to pull the trigger until i test drove it. Steering is lifelessly numb and light. Seats are amazingly comfortable though. Volvo shouldn't market it as a sports sedan.

G20 is growing on me. Looks ultra modern. Review is pretty spot on and the same conclusion myself and others have reached- very comfortable commuter car that can be pushed hard when/if needed and will deliver. Basically all things for everyone in the category.
Same here. The Volvo is sharp. The headlights especially. Then you drive it. Nice car but not sports sedan.
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