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The ///M cars are worthy competition to base and S 911s. My brother has a 991.2 C4 PDK - my F80 M3 comp is faster and inline 6 engine is much better in terms of delivering power and aggressiveness. The 911 handles MUCH better. Tech on M3 is much better in terms of Idrive, M1/M2 settings etc. The new 992 i have not driven so im sure that car is a monster with new improvements. |
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Ultimately- I think with mods from IND we can get it looking decent where the fact it’ll be a rocket ship might make up for the aesthetics |
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06-05-2020, 01:01 PM | #445 |
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Most likely reserved for next gen M2 styling. We've already had insiders hint that the next 2er grills will be more vertical like the new 4er but not as large.
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06-05-2020, 01:08 PM | #446 | |
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996 sold well but Porsche heard the critics (customers, fans, journalists etc) and they fixed it, hopefully BMW does the same. The only reason 996 turbo is so cheap is because of the headlights- same will be for this M4, its a styling gimmick that will age poorly and who ever buys one will take all the depreciation even more so than usual. |
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06-05-2020, 01:12 PM | #447 |
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Looks like a donkeys ass on the front end of a car, nice
never rode one backwards before. |
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06-05-2020, 01:15 PM | #448 |
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According to people if you don’t like the design you must not be able to afford the g80 which is why you’re hating on it.
Guess that’s not true ! |
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06-05-2020, 01:27 PM | #449 | |
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I don't understand how its possible to make the M8 look so good but completely ruin the M4 |
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06-05-2020, 01:36 PM | #450 |
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06-05-2020, 01:49 PM | #451 | |
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Furthermore, I can absolutely assure you that changing the color of the crossbar in the grill and the uprights in the lower air damn on the bumper will not effect their performance or effectiveness in any way. The reason we know this is because the color of something does not change its aerodynamic properties. |
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06-05-2020, 02:10 PM | #453 |
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Huh? Who has claimed that? Half the people who are hating in it are claiming they're going with Porsche now, true or not.
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06-05-2020, 02:15 PM | #454 |
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...allegedly next generation M2 will take after these...
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I'm sure the aerodynamics side of the M division was just begging to find another 5 lbs of downforce. I know, make the grill huge and the slats horizontal! Like someone else pointed out, the slats are probably horizontal to make the grill look less long. |
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Agree. If these are not more functional elements than someone show me a wind tunnel data sheet showing no difference to previous designs. If not, these are all individual opinions. I have a few engineer friends at Garching that told me about these steps back in 2014.. What they told me has all come to fruition.
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I’ve had 3 F8x cars and they are even now, stunning. When I first walked into BMW and saw a SMB 4CS sitting in the showroom I honestly felt giddy. It was jaw dropping, it’s fate was sealed and almost 2 years later, I still get chills when I see and drive it.
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06-05-2020, 02:41 PM | #459 | |
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I don't see Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Alfa, etc fucking up their designs for better performance. Just look at the F80. No cooling nor aero issues with the design and it didn't have a grill this large. Neither does the M8!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BMW's flagship. You're telling me they decided to make this car perform better than the M8 and the only way to make that possible is by fucking up the design? No way.
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The confidence with which you made that claim strongly suggests you either did not realize or forgot that there is a horizontal crossmember right across the center of the grill. I say this because it is difficult to imagine someone being so absolutely sure about such a claim if they had considered that point. Once you are aware of that, you can see easily that this bumper design is by all appearances functionally very similar to other modern BMW designs. I'm going to suggest we simply move on from what would inevitably be an a fact-free debate masquerading as a fluid dynamics seminar and stick to the subjective stuff. Can we do that? |
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06-05-2020, 02:46 PM | #461 | |
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That's why I said individual opinions. So that may be. |
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06-05-2020, 02:50 PM | #462 |
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I thought the same thing! I would have taken about 20 pics. I imagine they took a bunch (I hope?!) and this is the only one that surfaced.
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