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09-18-2019, 02:24 AM | #1036 |
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BMW and Audi shuffled their deck chairs by swapping designers and engineers. These moves have brought us AWD M cars and gigantic grilles. Too bad it didn't get us any M wagons like the RS6 Avant.
We also saw this happen at Kia when they strategically hired Albert Biermann and Peter Leclerq, so it's no surprise Kia's started to become better driving cars and got styling cues that resembled BMW's kidney grilles and fender vents. Maybe this also why BMW had to change their grille design to re-distinguish themselves? As for Audi's influence, I'm ok with the AWD since it's rear wheel biased and great for increased traction, but damn, I'm not buying these new grilles. We have definitely witnessed a paradigm shift to Audi inspired design. Only time will tell if this is the dawn of a new era or an end to classic BMW design as we've known it. People will vote with their pocketbooks and BMW will react one way or another. Personally Audi's have never appealed to me. That's why I'm on my 18th BMW and most likely my last for now. |
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09-18-2019, 03:36 AM | #1037 |
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I will be at Frankfurt IAA on Friday to see the grilles in person.
I don't like what i see in the photos, but I will see on Friday if they are any less disturbing in the metal.
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This could all be a clever ploy by the BMW Marketing Dept to ensure they sell out the final year current gen 4-series production.
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09-18-2019, 12:09 PM | #1039 |
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I'd be buying one if I didn't already have one
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09-19-2019, 01:37 AM | #1041 | |
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Love my F36. That's all I have to say on the matter
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All rights almost 50 pages now, when are we going to see "real" street car release?
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https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=767418 Or, if not that early, maybe by March 2020: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=818697 But official pictures probably won't be available until June 2020, when you'll see a thread like this one: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=853135 |
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But I will agree with you maybe they need this design change to bring in new buyers. Either way I want to see this IRL on a production model before I completely abandon the idea of this car. |
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What stage are we at now? Denial? Bordering on Acceptance?
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Love the E46 coupe and silver grey is another favorite of mine. My F80 is a handsome car as well. But today I’d have the 4 series concept over any of them. The E46 and F80 are beautiful but dated and the design belong in the past. The new 4 series concept is fresh, bold and designed for the next 10 years where it will need to stand up against the design revolution the EVs will bring. EVs has huge packaging advantages with opportunities for very beautiful and unusual designs. If you are shocked by the 4 series concept hold on tight, since it’s likely to be seen as conservative before it’s life cycle ends.
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Was initially surprised at how awful it looked but indifferent now as I know I won't be buying one when I come to change my car in a year's time
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I understand your point, but when I'm in the market for a new car, I'm pretty focused on "now". I want it to look stylish and sporty the day I drive it away from the dealership. I don't want it looking fugly as a way of softening me up for what might come years down the line!! :
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