[solstice]

Originally Posted by kyrix1st

In other words, BMW decided to save money on signature M cars because only few will be sold compared to normal BMWs. That’s a great way to shoo away M customers who expect highest regard from the once respectable brand. Sad to see the company’s future being blurred by accountants.

Maybe send a few engineers to learn from AMG factories? lol:

I really don’t see the big deal with the hood line.

[seis-speed]

We need to get all the info first, then form your decisions. A manual transmission and bucket seats on a modern car is very exciting and I will hope for the best possible driver's car that can carry 5 passengers.

At this point, nobody has seen the car in person outside of BMW, we do not have any specs, it could be a dynamic machine, we just do not know.

[JSaid]

Originally Posted by seis-speed

We need to get all the info first, then form your decisions. A manual transmission and bucket seats on a modern car is very exciting and I will hope for the best possible driver's car that can carry 5 passengers.

At this point, nobody has seen the car in person outside of BMW, we do not have any specs, it could be a dynamic machine, we just do not know.

No one here is disagreeing with the fact that it will be a dynamic beast of a car. We are saying that no matter how great of a car it is, it's still HIDEOUS. No one wants to drive ugly.

[stein_325i]

It will probably be a slight improvement over the F80 (for manual models), Auto models may be debatable, but I won't start another DCT vs ZF argument (manual is better than both anyways ) but this will likely not be a revolution or big change in driving dynamics. That is what I'm expecting for the new models, although, could be wrong. Time will tell, although this release is taking so damn long at this point.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by kyrix1st

In other words, BMW decided to save money on signature M cars because only few will be sold compared to normal BMWs. That’s a great way to shoo away M customers who expect highest regard from the once respectable brand. Sad to see the company’s future being blurred by accountants.

Maybe send a few engineers to learn from AMG factories? lol:

AMG and their hood shutlines?

[kyrix1st]

Originally Posted by solstice

I really don’t see the big deal with the hood line.

Concept 4 is the one car that needs no hood line to mitigate that huge grills that distract from the rest of the car.

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

AMG and their hood shutlines?

Design of AMG cars work because they are designed with the hood line already in mind, not an afterthought to save cost.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by solstice

I really don’t see the big deal with the hood line.

Me either. It's an over exaggerated point.

[M3AWD]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Me either. It's an over exaggerated point.

Agreed.

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by solstice

I really don’t see the big deal with the hood line.

I know I'm not the only one who finds it awkward. I usually buy AW BMWs and I ordered my F80 in TB because I wanted the hood line hid somewhat by a darker color. In my opinion both of those examples look more natural. Most cars need a hood line you just hope it flows with the design.

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Me either. It's an over exaggerated point.

I really don't care for it and miss their previous approach. However it's not a deal breaker for me.

Over exaggerated or popular critique? Probably both.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by WWM3

I really don't care for it and miss their previous approach. However it's not a deal breaker for me.

Over exaggerated or popular critique? Probably both.

You're right, it's both......with regards to the forum. I've never heard any owner I've met out in the wild ever complain about it.

[OSee]

Originally Posted by kyrix1st

Concept 4 is the one car that needs no hood line to mitigate that huge grills that distract from the rest of the car.



Design of AMG cars work because they are designed with the hood line already in mind, not an afterthought to save cost.

People on the internet (“enthusiasts”) have been complaining about the hoodlines on 2/3/4 series long before the pictures of gigantic grills started making their rounds. Happens every generation without fail.

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by OCfromOC

People on the internet (“enthusiasts”) have been complaining about the hoodlines on 2/3/4 series long before the pictures of gigantic grills started making their rounds. Happens every generation without fail.

But in this case, the design is truly ugly, at least in the photos. Maybe be different in person but somehow I have a feeling not.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

AMG and their hood shutlines?

Yup both C63 and E63 both have a good line that doesn't meet the grill....

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by shortseller

But in this case, the design is truly ugly, at least in the photos. Maybe be different in person but somehow I have a feeling not.

What photos though, there is t a single full car photo out yet as the course is not released yet.

Give it a chance people

['Cane]

Originally Posted by JustChris

Yup both C63 and E63 both have a good line that doesn't meet the grill....

That’s not a C63 or E63, at least not entirely. It’s got an AMG GT 4 door front end.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

That’s not a C63 or E63, at least not entirely. It’s got an AMG GT 4 door front end.

Yeah that's just a weird photoshop.

[DRKNEVL]

Originally Posted by Sherweeeny

hope you dont mind mate, i just used yours to play around with what I wouldve rathered it to look like, courtesy of MS Paint

Oh hell yeah! This is what I want to see! Car on the left obviously.