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      03-30-2020, 08:09 PM   #45
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...For a lot of people aesthetics will be eclipsed by performance. I believe it will surprise quite a few people
Boy, I hope so. That snout is over the top. But if I'm not broke by the time it comes out...
Yeah me too. It will be time to buy soon I hope
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      03-31-2020, 07:30 AM   #46
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FWIW I had a 2016 M3. The 2017 M3 competition package was such an improvement in smoothness and refinement I made the switch.
I second this point. I've had seven M3s and M4s over the last 20 years. I think the competition models of the prior two generations (E and F models) are much improved over their non-comp counterparts (and look better). They just seem more dialed in from a handling/driving perspective. Fortunately, BMW is releasing the comp models early.

Check out the comparisons of the M5 and M5 comp models for an analogy.
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      03-31-2020, 01:36 PM   #47
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In 2013 I purchased a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee. This was a face-lift to the previous year but had substantial upgrades, new front end, interior parts, 8 speed tranny (previous was a 5 speed), etc.
Though i had a few instances that required trips to the dealer, it was all done under warranty and the car was solid after the first year or so.
I feel like the G80 may be that way as well. If there are issues, take it to the dealer to fix, they'll give you a decent loaner and you should be set.
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      04-04-2020, 01:24 AM   #48
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I usually don't buy the first production year as I've always heard that it takes a year or so to figure out & resolve bugs & issues discovered during the first model year. Sometimes other enhancements are put in place year 2 onwards, and I've experienced that with my two most recent brand new BMWs.

What are your thoughts when it comes to the G80 M3? I'm running out of patience and don't want to wait much longer than early 2021 to get mine, but I have concerns about the early production cars. Do you feel that it's less likely for the first year production cars to have issues since the engine & transmission are already in the X3M/X4M, and other technology is already in place in the 3 series, and so on?
BMW releases refreshes and new packages every few years to keep inventory moving. So long as you aren't the type to always want to have the latest and greatest, getting the first years shouldn't give you too many problems. This is just one of the reasons I leased my last 2 bimmers. I had a '16 M3 base then got the CS, which is pretty much the final big hoorah for the F80 with all the bells and whistles (and minus some features for "performance"). In other words, if you're not attached to it, no problem, you can always upgrade later. The base, to the comp, to the CS's were all significant and worthwhile upgrades if you want to keep swapping cars every few years.
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      04-04-2020, 10:38 AM   #49
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BMW releases refreshes and new packages every few years to keep inventory moving. So long as you aren't the type to always want to have the latest and greatest, getting the first years shouldn't give you too many problems. This is just one of the reasons I leased my last 2 bimmers. I had a '16 M3 base then got the CS, which is pretty much the final big hoorah for the F80 with all the bells and whistles (and minus some features for "performance"). In other words, if you're not attached to it, no problem, you can always upgrade later. The base, to the comp, to the CS's were all significant and worthwhile upgrades if you want to keep swapping cars every few years.
Makes sense.

As long as I like what the G80 looks like in person, and it drives & performs as expected, I think I'll go for an early completion model. I'm not really worried about always having the latest & greatest tech & features so I won't be itching to upgrade 2 years later if BMW improve their iDrive or something like that.
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BMW releases refreshes and new packages every few years to keep inventory moving. So long as you aren't the type to always want to have the latest and greatest, getting the first years shouldn't give you too many problems. This is just one of the reasons I leased my last 2 bimmers. I had a '16 M3 base then got the CS, which is pretty much the final big hoorah for the F80 with all the bells and whistles (and minus some features for "performance"). In other words, if you're not attached to it, no problem, you can always upgrade later. The base, to the comp, to the CS's were all significant and worthwhile upgrades if you want to keep swapping cars every few years.
Makes sense.

As long as I like what the G80 looks like in person, and it drives & performs as expected, I think I'll go for an early completion model. I'm not really worried about always having the latest & greatest tech & features so I won't be itching to upgrade 2 years later if BMW improve their iDrive or something like that.
We bought my wife's 2019 X5 in late 2018 and as long as the G80 has all of its software, lights, and features I'm not concerned about missing out on LCIs or mid gen refreshes.

Upgraded lights, CarPlay, new iDrive (which is fabulous) plus all the F80 normal features will be a great first year release of a new gen.
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      05-15-2020, 09:36 PM   #51
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I have had 4 first year M3s/4s starting with my 2001 E46 M3 Coupe. In fact, I usually get one of the first delivered in my state. I keep them a full model cycle, and like the fact that they are "new" longer. There have been issues, but always well-handled by BMW/dealer, even after warranty. Given the current economic situation, and the fact I'll be 72 next month, not sure if I'll get one of the first of the upcoming generation (manual, please). But, it's a goal - start the spousal negotiation!
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Never had a problem buying first year run cars on the contrary my 392 Widebody with the 6.4L that's been out for 5 years blew a piston at 3k miles on the car (still in dealership) BMW has some of the best modern manufacturing i wouldn't hesitate buying an M car just released
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So far it seems those of us with S58 X3Ms haven't had any drivetrain related issues. Some minor cosmetic and fit/finish issues but nothing terribly egregious. There must be S58 owners over 10k miles by now.
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So far it seems those of us with S58 X3Ms haven't had any drivetrain related issues. Some minor cosmetic and fit/finish issues but nothing terribly egregious. There must be S58 owners over 10k miles by now.
That's good to hear!
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      06-19-2020, 09:35 PM   #55
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I would have no issues buying first generation M3 M4.
Same, I have an early build G20 without any issues and car now has over 10k miles. The G80 is in my sights as a possible replacement when my lease ends. Well, if I can stomach the new grill, can't wait to see what the M3 will look like.
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I would have no issues buying first generation M3 M4.
Same, I have an early build G20 without any issues and car now has over 10k miles. The G80 is in my sights as a possible replacement when my lease ends. Well, if I can stomach the new grill, can't wait to see what the M3 will look like.
Not as bad as people on here think. The car's performance will make you forgive the grill. My M340 is a great car new M3 should be a beast
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If things are right for you it should be a go. As with BMW you know the LCI is going to be equipped with nicer headlights and taillights, cs, gts, etc. Being the first ones to play is awesome though.
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