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Extremely good and detailed review.
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F30 had L-shaped taillight since MY2012, just bit taller format. You might be referring to pre-LCI E90 that had backing light cluster as part of taillight. In terms of taillight interpretation, it's still L-Shaped (brake light cluster). In any respect, BMW, Lexus or any brand, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
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04-05-2019, 10:06 PM | #48 |
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A gearbox is a car's transmission. I'm completely lost here. Are you talking about the shifter? The layout of what? The buttons around the shifter? I don't see the resemblance. The G20 shifter surround looks European, it just looks kinda cheap.
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What if it's 38000, 2300lbs and 325hp? What's the point? I could buy an E30 MS chassis that probably on par but ?? T |
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04-05-2019, 10:56 PM | #51 | |
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You're looking at one. Devil is in the details, if BMW mess up the obvious one, let alone under the hood.
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Example: (Guesstimate) 46,000 (E46) x 0.80 (E36) x 0.80 (E30) x 1.10 (Cage) = 32,384 (Still impressive on E30 M3 compared to torsional rigidity of newer gen) Those metrics were derived from each gen based on BMW's claim of torsional rigidity and % of improvement. The actual driving experience also reflected with those improvements. Not all potential buyers are going to track their car, and having improved torsional rigidity on stock form will experience better ride quality. |
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04-05-2019, 11:27 PM | #52 | |
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Are you saying that iDrive 7 is standard equipment and available now? |
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04-06-2019, 12:35 AM | #53 |
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time to move on... you won't be able to change the design.
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look at the LCI 7 series similar design of the back lights... the design is here to stay for several years...
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04-06-2019, 02:57 AM | #58 |
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We have great posters on this forum
Thanks very much for this insight
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I was pretty damn surprised to see a Chevy tier interior with cloth seats in a bmw. That said, the US 3 series was never as nice as the 5 series but the F30 saw BMW really testing the limits of their customer base. Aside from the seats it was pretty cheap similiar to Porsche circa 1997. The difference being BMW had never been bigger when the F30 launched and now Porsche was on life support when the 996 gen launched. I'm glad OP seems to imply that BMW has Atleast solve the creaking in a brand new car. It was hilarious leaving my 10 year old 5 series still solid and creak free as a rock and hopping in a brand new 330d Fully loaded only to find it full of creaky plastic. The good news is really this. The F30 sold like crazy but existing BMW faithful more or less tore it up with criticism. BMW could have stayed the course on the cheap interior and probably gotten away with it but Atleast took it upon themselves to do better. I |
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The Dakota leather in mine was ok but honestly would have Prefer Sensatec for better durability.
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04-06-2019, 10:22 AM | #61 |
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Also, 2 thoughts
1. Someone copy this review and apply its criteria and measurements to a Mexican G20. I strongly suspect that the new factory will be unable to match the quality and I'd advise anyone not to rush in to ordering one. We all see how Tesla's new plant is going for build quality. Mexican workers can make good stuff but it took Fender about 15 years to have the Mexican build quality match US for their guitars. 2. Anyone have any insight on where exactly M adaptive settings relate to non adaptive? My impression is the F30 had an ultra comfort set up stock. The M sport suspension took this to a 'sporty' but not really track ready set up. And I'd call an M car trackable street and the competition streetable track. Similar to Porsche's base/s/GTS tubings. My M5 adaptive suspension is the best if used, and this is compared to Audi SQ5 which hardly seemed to do anything and took the ride from harsh to harsher. and an Audi S6 which is better mostly sits in comfort to less comfort. Thé M5 goes from comfort to about 90% the level of the Z06. I saw measurements for the e89 Z4 35is and someone said you would switch from softer than a 30i to harsher than M sport 35i but very short of the old M roadster. Keeping in mind Z cars tend to be different from the rest of the line in terms of suspension philosophy. The e89 was a GT car in conception snd the 35i was always a step softer than the 335i and the new M40i is allegedly sitting at M4 levels of suspension while the rest of M40i (340i 240i) are a step softer. My question is what does comfort normal and sport settings attempt to be compared to the no adaptive base / M-Sport / M models. Will a G20 tighten up to M sport firmness or can it tighten to M proper firmness? |
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There's some flaking of the plastic around the steering wheel radio buttons cuz my brother doesn't cut his nails promptly, but otherwise it looks and feels exactly the same as the day we took it home off the showroom floor. Dakota definitely isn't as luxurious as Vernasca but it's damn durable.
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Undoubtedly one of the finest BMW reviews I have ever read over the last 15 years. Thank you!
How does the track package compare to the standard MSport suspension and also to the previous M3 in terms of handling?
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M340i is indeed a beast and makes me wonder how much better will the M3 be? If bmw can make the M340i so good and fast, the M3 will have to be significantly better to justify for the price premium.
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Dakota leather was fairly durable but not overly impressive or supple as Vernasca or Napa.
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