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I've driven a 4C and the Giulia. Loved both the cars but would never own either of them.
Passionate, exciting cars, with lots of personality, but not a brand I'd put my hard earned cash into. Chrysler owns them, need I say more... C&D long term test: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...bility-update/ CNBC: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/08/2018...ti-review.html https://jalopnik.com/actually-alfa-r...ble-1819080051 Alfa Sales plummet: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/driv...ar-whats-next/
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Wait, did no one notice the 42mpg at 75mph from the 330!? That is insane!
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If you check the Alfa forums, they tend to have a pretty high (and very defensive) opinion of their reliability. Which means it's probably much better than the rest of us (every other car forum) think, but not near where they perceive it to be. Still, I will have to test drive one just based off looks alone. |
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Try to run Alfa more then once even 0-60 and see in how many seconds check engine light will go on
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My neighbor actually has two of them, and he, wait, hold on... too funny, just as I read this thread, one is being loaded on a flatbed as I speak! I guess it's the other ones turn to be driven 😂😂😂.
Too bad, they certainly are beautiful!! But then again, so was that crazy girl I dated a long time ago!! Thank God for restraining orders 😂😂 |
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It's interesting that the Alfa's front end is considered attractive, but the G8X is abhorred.
P.S. Sounds like a win for the G20. |
12-20-2019, 12:38 AM | #31 |
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I considered an Alfa Giulia before I got my G20. Didn't end up going with it, and the reason #1 was reliability lol. Also the G20 has an overall better look and feel to it, it's just a better all-around car.
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12-20-2019, 01:26 AM | #32 |
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I'm not sure that the g80 front end is universally abhorred. It does seem to be a polarizing design, however, and those who dislike it are passionately vocal about it. I think the silent majority are adjusting to the shift in design language, and are patiently waiting to see the finer details of how it looks in the production models.
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I dont see how people are missing this. I know a good chunk of people here dont care about that, but for us here in the EU, were prices are higher than the US, the ability to get excellent performance and amazing fuel economy is real winner. This car can be an amazing Autobahn cruiser and very capable B road carver. Also the interior quality is beyond what the F series cars had. The car feels amazingly solid.
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I love Alfa over BMW (design power and steering feel is so nice in Alfa) but could not commit due to reliability risks when competitors offer similar packages for same price but you know what to expect from them (as opposed to Alfa). Alfa should really learn from hunday how to come to market and win.
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For reference, 42mpg is close to what my daily driver 2017 Jetta SE 1.4t 5speed manual gets at 75mph (it gets 43-44mpg, it's 2,950 lbs, 205 cross sectional eco-minded tires). That the G20 can accomplish this being heavier, having a larger engine, and sticky tires on the handling package, that's amazing! Also, did anyone notice how much faster the Alfa got as compared to their 2017 test vehicle? 99mph vs 104mph in the 1/4 mile trap speed, wringer? 5mph is significant.
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"Both vehicles come with the same sharp handling, crisply communicative steering, as their 2019 versions." "What really sets the Alfa Romeo apart from the competition is its steering. A quick, 11.8:1-ratio rack translates to 2.3 turns lock-to-lock, and even better than the responsiveness is the intuitive feedback and road feel. Ride quality is excellent on the optional 18-inch wheels, and the structure is as solid as any in the segment. Alive and graced with some of the rawness of the 4C sports car, the Giulia steers with a precision and purity that BMW has retreated from and Audi and Mercedes-Benz have yet to figure out. In the Giulia's segment, the Cadillac ATS's steering comes closest." "The Giulia's dynamics also are spot-on, achieving a nearly ideal ride/handling balance that picks up where the BMW 3-series left off one generation ago. It doesn't take much seat time to feel the liveliness of the Alfa's controls, starting with the perfectly weighted steering rack, which has great on-center feel, quick turn-in, and, above all, is communicative, with just the right amount of feedback filtered through to the driver. The car moves gracefully on twisty roads, the balanced weight distribution (we measured our rear-wheel-drive test car's 3636-pound curb weight at 49.8 percent front, 50.2 percent rear) making it easy to get into a rhythm." It just seems weird to compliment the suspension/ride and steering many times to only dismiss it in this one article when nothing about the Giulia has changed
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