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      02-09-2019, 12:45 AM   #89
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lol 56k 330i
My F31 330i was $62k - now that's a big LOL!
You didn't pay MSRP I take it? My 340i was $51k sticker I paid $45k. 330i are overpriced unless you get it with no options.
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Wow that's crazy. My 2006 325 e90 with sport and premium packages had msrp of 34k brand new. I hope these prices keep f80 used price up.
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Wow that's crazy. My 2006 325 e90 with sport and premium packages had msrp of 34k brand new. I hope these prices keep f80 used price up.
I know right... In 1927 you could get a 4-door Ford Model T for $545. And that had a 2.9L I4 with all of its mighty 20 horses, not some pesky 2L turbo-unit, smh.

And we all know inflation is just a conspiracy and the quality and features of cars also can't change in 13 (or nearly a 100) years, so there's that too.

Can we retitle the thread to "How much has your car cost over a decade ago"?
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BMW truism #69 (nice): always opt for the mildly loaded M40i model over a fully loaded 30i.
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Or is just me or does that fact that I'm looking at the back of a Lexus make the MSRP conversation irrelevant?

I saw an M-Sport in person at Barrett-Jackson last month and cannot warm up to the excessive lines, creases, and curves on the new model.
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lol 56k 330i
I'll take a G30 5er for that instead. Thank you
blows my mind why anyone would buy these cars new... 1 year later; they are 10k off
Because used cars suck. They are typically beat up demo vehicles, been in an accident, have botched up paint work that doesn't show until you've been driving it for a few months, mechanical or electrical gremlins, etc. I'd rather pay $10k more and not worry about any of the problems associated with used cars. Especially used dealership trade-ins or "Certified" Pre-owned vehicles. Buying a good, honest used car from a private owner is a different story, but it takes an insane amount of effort and time to hunt down a good one. Been there, done that with new, dealer used, and private used cars. I will only buy new cars from now on unless I'm buying a classic car where I don't have the option to buy new.
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Because used cars suck. They are typically beat up demo vehicles, been in an accident, have botched up paint work that doesn't show until you've been driving it for a few months, mechanical or electrical gremlins, etc. I'd rather pay $10k more and not worry about any of the problems associated with used cars. Especially used dealership trade-ins or "Certified" Pre-owned vehicles. Buying a good, honest used car from a private owner is a different story, but it takes an insane amount of effort and time to hunt down a good one. Been there, done that with new, dealer used, and private used cars. I will only buy new cars from now on unless I'm buying a classic car where I don't have the option to buy new.
I agree with all of these. I know lemon law is going to help me if I have an issue with a brand new model/vehicle, but if you buy a month old car, good luck with that.
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lol 56k 330i
I'll take a G30 5er for that instead. Thank you
blows my mind why anyone would buy these cars new... 1 year later; they are 10k off
Because used cars suck. They are typically beat up demo vehicles, been in an accident, have botched up paint work that doesn't show until you've been driving it for a few months, mechanical or electrical gremlins, etc. I'd rather pay $10k more and not worry about any of the problems associated with used cars. Especially used dealership trade-ins or "Certified" Pre-owned vehicles. Buying a good, honest used car from a private owner is a different story, but it takes an insane amount of effort and time to hunt down a good one. Been there, done that with new, dealer used, and private used cars. I will only buy new cars from now on unless I'm buying a classic car where I don't have the option to buy new.
i bought a cpo version of a car that was 2.5 years old for 55% of the price... car has been perfect and has a 100k mile warranty from the manufacturer... if u wanna deal w this ripoff and can lose 25k in 2 years without asking questions; then this is the right ride for u...
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Wait until until a decently loaded M3/M4 hits 100K. The tears will flow.
it can hit that now if you start adding m performance parts
Actually performance parts should be less hopefully. No more need for the power kit, LSD, and maybe no perf exhaust.
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blows my mind why anyone would buy these cars new... 1 year later; they are 10k off
It's called too much disposable income.
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Highly, highly annoyed that it seems every car that BMW offers can get the M steering wheel except the X4 M40i which can only get the crappy one.
X4M is suppose to be introduced next month, cancel your order for the legit M steering wheel then.
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Wait until until a decently loaded M3/M4 hits 100K. The tears will flow.
Occurred already with the CS variants, thus why there are significant dealer discount and BMW NA incentives as the cars have been sitting on lots.
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blows my mind why anyone would buy these cars new... 1 year later; they are 10k off
It's called too much disposable income.
Indeed if you include CS variants. Currently, a well loaded M4 goes for about $85K USD. It is quite possible that after the G82 generation, future base M4 prices that are similarly optioned will encroach 100K.
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lol 56k 330i
I'll take a G30 5er for that instead. Thank you
blows my mind why anyone would buy these cars new... 1 year later; they are 10k off
Because used cars suck. They are typically beat up demo vehicles, been in an accident, have botched up paint work that doesn't show until you've been driving it for a few months, mechanical or electrical gremlins, etc. I'd rather pay $10k more and not worry about any of the problems associated with used cars. Especially used dealership trade-ins or "Certified" Pre-owned vehicles. Buying a good, honest used car from a private owner is a different story, but it takes an insane amount of effort and time to hunt down a good one. Been there, done that with new, dealer used, and private used cars. I will only buy new cars from now on unless I'm buying a classic car where I don't have the option to buy new.
Sounds like a bunch of made up excuses to me. A well researched and vetted CPO or used BMW could be a great solid purchase. On the other hand if you don't do your due diligence you can end up with someone else's problem.

Sorry to hear that you may have been badly burn in the past but you didn't perform due diligence on those used car purchases. Used is not immediately suspected of abuse or damage but at the same time you have the vehicle you are looking at.

And do you truly honestly believe that buying will shield you 100% from a vehicle that has not had repainted panels or shipping damage?
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It's crazy that just 6 years ago, you could get a decently loaded e92 335is for 56k....
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In all seriousness this car is irrelevant and dead on arrival in my opinion. It's too expensive and doesn't move the needle driving dynamics wise enough to validate it's existence in today's market place. ICE sedans are dead at this price point and the sales volume or lack there of will continue to prove this out.

Another jack of all trades, does everything well sedan doesn't change the game anymore. Too many good options at lower price points. Elon Musk has to be licking his chops. This will be the first 3 series since the E46 that I don't purchase.
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