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      11-17-2015, 07:25 AM   #23
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26 states have said no refugees. All but one has a republican.governor. If you have a Democrat governor, you're probably going to have 10,000 Syrians in your cities in a year or so, taking your jobs, using up your tax money. Good luck with that.
Yes that's exactly what would happen. A bunch of Syrian refugees, fluent in English and with graduate level degrees at least will fill our cities and take our jobs.

I have concerns with refugees...the one you listed would probably be dead last on priority.

I think we should stop letting them in ATM and have a very specific and stringent security background check before you let them in, maybe even then you only let older men and women with families in. No to young males in their 20's or 30's. It's a shame these assholes are posing as victims to kill innocent people. I'd like a specific plan in letting them in while ensuring our safety since these refugees pose a severe security risk. So far I haven't really heard much on how that'd work.

I'm all for helping innocent families (especially with children) who've been displaced from their homes by no fault of their own, but we better make fucking sure that we don't let any of those assholes into our country.

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To answer the original question, it is being a decent human being and caring for your fellow man.
At the risk of my and my families lives? F-that. Why are liberals so worried about building a power plant or jail in their town but OK with this?
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At the risk of my and my families lives? F that.
How noble of you.
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Yes that's exactly what would happen. A bunch of Syrian refugees, fluent in English and with graduate level degrees at least will fill our cities and take our jobs.

I have concerns with refugees...the one you listed would probably be dead last on priority.
Um, no. We aren't bringing over the graduate class of their Harvard. These are peasants.
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How noble of you.
Good. Then you won't mind if we move a bunch in next door to you.
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Um, no. We aren't bringing over the graduate class of their Harvard. These are peasants.
My point exactly, guess you missed it.

What "jobs" would these people take?
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The McDonald's jobs, putting more US poor on the welfare roles.
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The McDonald's jobs, putting more US poor on the welfare roles.
You do realize that most of them don't speak English right?
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Good. Then you won't mind if we move a bunch in next door to you.
I am absolutely OK with it.
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To answer the original question, it is being a decent human being and caring for your fellow man.
X2. Debatable on how to go about it or how much help to give but this is the basic principle to why you should help someone else.
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Tricky subject for sure, let me offer up 2 thoughts:
1. In any given group of 20,000, there are bound to be some bad apples...Muslim or not
2. When I was just 2 yrs old, my family was forced out of east Africa at gunpoint...Canada welcomed us with open arms (Trudeau Sr was the PM at the time) and for that we will be forever grateful

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You do realize that most of them don't speak English right?
Most people at McDonald's don't either. Yes. These "refugees" will cost us about $50,000 a year in tax money each. That's $50 out of each of your pockets, or $200 for a family of 4. That's just what our economy needs.
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Tricky subject for sure, let me offer up 2 thoughts:
1. In any given group of 20,000, there are bound to be some bad apples...Muslim or not
2. When I was just 2 yrs old, my family was forced out of east Africa at gunpoint...Canada welcomed us with open arms (Pierre sr was the PM at the time) and for that we will be forever grateful
Did the east African gunman want to kill Canadians and try to sneak into Canada with your group?
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To answer the original question, it is being a decent human being and caring for your fellow man.
Ok set an example, bring in a few Syrian families to live with you; house them and provide them with financial support.
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Most people at McDonald's don't either. Yes. These "refugees" will cost us about $50,000 a year in tax money each. That's $50 out of each of your pockets, or $200 for a family of 4. That's just what our economy needs.
It's nice to see that you have moved past the moral issue and are now trying to figure out how to fund the problem. Do you have more information on how you calculated the numbers above?
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My point exactly, guess you missed it.

What "jobs" would these people take?
None, we would be supporting them because they will be on welfare.
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Most people at McDonald's don't either. Yes. These "refugees" will cost us about $50,000 a year in tax money each. That's $50 out of each of your pockets, or $200 for a family of 4. That's just what our economy needs.
Yeah sure there's a big strain on resources definitely, America is a world leader (despite the nonsense you read that would try to suggest otherwise). Leaders lead by example.

You could try to make them productive members of society, like Mercedes Benz/Germany are doing (http://www.autoblog.com/2015/11/09/m...gram-official/).

But then lazy Americans would bitch about that, taking their jobs and what not. They all preach about free markets but are suddenly against it when it poses a threat to their own jobs. Free markets work both ways after all. No different than if I were to bitch that people shouldn't get college degrees just so my profession stays short in qualified people, it's just stupid. What Germany and MB are doing is quite clever, training what will be a cheaper source of labor.
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None, we would be supporting them because they will be on welfare.
We could attempt to have a program similar to what Germany and Mercedes Benz have, that I posted above. But like I said, that'd just piss off the lazy Americans.
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Ok set an example, bring in a few Syrian families to live with you; house them and provide them with financial support.
Unfortunately, I don't have the means.

I have written to my MP and MPP letting them know I am in favour of bringing more refugees in with the associated risks. I have gone out and bought kitchen sets, small appliances and warm clothes, out of my own pocket, for a couple new refugee families that had just arrived in Canada, and are now living in our neighbourhood.

I am helping, what are you doing?
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It's nice to see that you have moved past the moral issue and are now trying to figure out how to fund the problem. Do you have more information on how you calculated the numbers above?
The average benefits cost added up for someone on welfare is actually $54,000 per year.
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The average benefits cost added up for someone on welfare is actually $54,000 per year.
The cost per refugee I'd imagine would be a lot more expensive than that. They aren't your typical welfare recipient.
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