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      12-23-2018, 02:26 PM   #133
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The Coupe should be at Arjeplog for Winter Testing.
Stay tuned it's coming up in early 2019 where the photographers will descend on the small Swedish town at the Arctic Circle. Fighting against the elements and snow shovel weilding residents (manufacturers spend and contribute big in the winter testing months and also employ residents and use the amenities.)
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]Ha! Fantastic. Thanks Scott. Looking forward to the coupe emerging in 2019. Will we see sale in 2019 as a 2020 ?
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      12-30-2018, 06:20 PM   #134
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When is this car dropping exactly or around when???

I bought a end of year 2018 330 to hold me down for a bit while the new M340 gets cheaper or the new 440 drops then I will hope for it to be so good I won't want to get a 911
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      12-31-2018, 04:09 AM   #135
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When is this car dropping exactly or around when???

I bought a end of year 2018 330 to hold me down for a bit while the new M340 gets cheaper or the new 440 drops then I will hope for it to be so good I won't want to get a 911
Check the post directly above yours.
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      01-01-2019, 03:01 PM   #137
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      01-03-2019, 04:06 PM   #138
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      01-28-2019, 01:00 PM   #139
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Well looks like I will just have to hold onto my current 428i convertible, or snag up one if the last 440's next year. The whole reason I bought the car was the convertible hard top. I don't do rag tops. :-/
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      01-28-2019, 01:30 PM   #140
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Just for the record, going ragtop will only save HALF of that 500lb people keep quoting as the F33's weight penalty over the 4 series coupe...the other half relates to the extra convertible bracing that will always be required for any ragtop.

The 4 Series is a GT, a Grand Touring car, not an uncompromising sports car. A paltry 250 extra pounds is a small price to pay for the Grand Touring luxury of choosing with a flick of a switch, between top down and real coupe with a full size glass backlight.

It was that true coupe experience that lured me away from an awesome V8 in a Mustang or Camaro convertible (and from a bigger chunk of my bank account) and to not even bother looking at Audi or Mercedes.
EXACTLY! Spot on!

Rag tops = Huge blind spots, unsightly wear spots, crease lines in the fabric, and a tiny easy to damage rear window just to name a few negatives.
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      01-28-2019, 02:44 PM   #141
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Love soft tops to look at and the weight reductions are +ve for driving dynamics.
However, if you're forced to park on the street, soft tops are an easy target for vandals with sharp knifes who delight in ruining people's pride and joy. Happened to someone I know with a Porsche Boxster on more than one occasion. He changed car and moved house
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Well, so I guess for people who want a hardtop convertible, the current generation is the one to buy. Almost tempted myself even though I'm not sure a convertible is practical for me.
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Rear quarter views of the G23. Based on the amount of protective camo has an other winter (2020) of testing as all-new models have 2 seasons of hot/cold testing prior to market availability.
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      03-06-2019, 12:11 PM   #145
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Incredibly disappointed in the rag top decision. I was waiting to upgrade my daily - guess I'll look elsewhere.
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      03-06-2019, 02:12 PM   #146
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Incredibly disappointed in the rag top decision. I was waiting to upgrade my daily - guess I'll look elsewhere.
If you intend to stick with a hard-top convertible, it will be an easy search. You can choose one of two Ferrari models or the Mazda Miata:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s#Current_cars

(The SL and SLC are gone by the end of this year, and the next generation SL will be a 2+2 soft top)
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      03-06-2019, 02:25 PM   #147
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Incredibly disappointed in the rag top decision. I was waiting to upgrade my daily - guess I'll look elsewhere.
You could try to buy some of the ones on the market today with low mileage, do a PPI, maybe able to find a good deal. Check with your salesman and see if there are any out there brand new, if not promised to someone, he should be able to get it for you, hopefully at a good discount.

Im not disappointed, if I buy a 4-series, I will buy the coupe. I hope it looks very much like the 2019 3-series, that will be one sharp car IMO. Maybe they will make a hardtop like the E46 but those things are a pain to work with an put on and take off.

I just hope the front end doesnt look like scott26 posted in this thread, post #41

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=41

If it looks like that, Im out no matter what, these huge grills IMO are only making the car(s) look worse, example the 7-series LCI

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      03-16-2019, 12:34 PM   #148
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Does anyone know if the G22 (2021-coupe) and the G23 (2021 ragtop ) will offer a 6MT in any trim less than a "pure"

Quite amazing how little; news there is on the G22 and G23.... too far off?

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I’ve never been much for convertibles but this looks promising for the G22. The parts I don’t like about the G20 are gone and this seems to be a radical design change in every way from the current 4-series and the G20 which is both exciting and a bit scary. It does look to borrow lines from the eight which is promising, the eights weakness is it’s size and the soft awkward looking grills. It sounds like the 4 will get a radical but more agressive front end.

The camo. cutoff at the C-pillar make the rear look unproportionally long and ugly but I think that’s just an illusion since one advantage of a soft top is that the rear can be made relatively shorter. We’ll see but I can’t wait to see the new M4 coupe I suspect it will be really cool even if it might not look like any BMW we are used to.
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Rear quarter views of the G23. Based on the amount of protective camo has an other winter (2020) of testing as all-new models have 2 seasons of hot/cold testing prior to market availability.
Is that a G22 on the right?
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      03-26-2019, 02:08 PM   #151
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      03-26-2019, 03:35 PM   #152
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As an M235i Convertible owner who also looked at the 4 hard-top convertible, I'd make a few observations which are, of course entirely subjective.

The latest 5-layer soft-tops give pretty much the same noise levels as the hard-top equivalent on real road surfaces. I tested both coupé and convertible 2 Series, and I couldn't tell the difference. Especially when BMW insist on adding extra pseudo-exhaust noise through the audio. I don't see security as an issue. No one in their right minds leaves anything inside a car when parked, soft or hard-topped. Any serious/deranged criminals will just hammer through the windows anyway. My soft-top 2 Series loses very little space to the folded roof. When I looked at the 4 I couldn't believe how little space was left with the top down. For me, it rendered the car useless for carrying any serious luggage securely. Aesthetically, I found the 4 convertible inelegant with the roof up. For me, the engineers hadn't completely cracked the problem of folding the metal into the boot - the top-up version concedes too much to folding practicalities. However, I would concede the point about rear visibility: you absolutely need the reversing camera and you have to return to your learner-driver days of using all the mirrors conscientiously when reversing/parking. I'd also concede the coupé version of any model is always going to have smoother lines (think RR Wraith vs Dawn).

I think BMW are responding to the positive feedback on the 2 Series convertible in deciding to switch to fabric roof, given the comparable noise levels and far greater boot space a fabric roof provides. However, I appreciate that these coupé vs convertible and soft-top vs hard-top aesthetics are always going to be subjective.
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From 2010 to 2015 I had the E93, what a beauty this car! Hard roof and open side window, beautiful! BMW, why go back 13 years later !!! What horror this roof
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From 2010 to 2015 I had the E93, what a beauty this car! Hard roof and open side window, beautiful! BMW, why go back 13 years later !!! What horror this roof
Because Ragtops are lightweight and timeless in design.
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