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      03-10-2019, 02:36 PM   #23
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This is tough, ultimately I want a M4GC but no clue if it will even be made this generation, if it is I am guessing 2022 introduction.

My M3 is turning 4 this September, only 19,000 miles but the cost of extended warranty and maintenance seems pretty high and at the same time I couldn't see owning a high cost car like that without a warranty...

So do I go for a used M5 (really don't want anything longer than 190" though) or a X3M, wait for new M3 (1 year?) or just extend warranty for something like 3 years and wait for M4GC

Probably something in between, go for X3M now, keep for 3 years and hopefully M4GC is made.
19k miles is nothing. Man up and own a car for more than 3 or 4 years. What happened to enthusiasts?! Car enthusiasts used to be real peeps who bought cars they loved and kept them for years...in the past few years I've seen the softening of these enthusiasts into becoming just consumers and materialists who barely even drive their cars and buy another.

Old school enthusiasts would giggle at current enthusiasts. Get to a 100k miles on a car and THEN you will know how to drive it...keep a car 10 years. Don't buy the hype. With every generation BMW M cars are getting WORSE to drive not better...so enjoy what you have. Spending money on maintenance is cheaper and smarter than spending money on a new car!!!
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19k miles is nothing. Man up and own a car for more than 3 or 4 years. What happened to enthusiasts?! Car enthusiasts used to be real peeps who bought cars they loved and kept them for years...in the past few years I've seen the softening of these enthusiasts into becoming just consumers and materialists who barely even drive their cars and buy another.

Old school enthusiasts would giggle at current enthusiasts. Get to a 100k miles on a car and THEN you will know how to drive it...keep a car 10 years. Don't buy the hype. With every generation BMW M cars are getting WORSE to drive not better...so enjoy what you have. Spending money on maintenance is cheaper and smarter than spending money on a new car!!!
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This is tough, ultimately I want a M4GC but no clue if it will even be made this generation, if it is I am guessing 2022 introduction.

My M3 is turning 4 this September, only 19,000 miles but the cost of extended warranty and maintenance seems pretty high and at the same time I couldn't see owning a high cost car like that without a warranty...

So do I go for a used M5 (really don't want anything longer than 190" though) or a X3M, wait for new M3 (1 year?) or just extend warranty for something like 3 years and wait for M4GC

Probably something in between, go for X3M now, keep for 3 years and hopefully M4GC is made.
Would leasing be a cheaper option for you? Especially since it seems you put on low milage, then you could lease an X3 M and wait for the possible M4GC
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19k miles is nothing. Man up and own a car for more than 3 or 4 years. What happened to enthusiasts?! Car enthusiasts used to be real peeps who bought cars they loved and kept them for years...in the past few years I've seen the softening of these enthusiasts into becoming just consumers and materialists who barely even drive their cars and buy another.

Old school enthusiasts would giggle at current enthusiasts. Get to a 100k miles on a car and THEN you will know how to drive it...keep a car 10 years. Don't buy the hype. With every generation BMW M cars are getting WORSE to drive not better...so enjoy what you have. Spending money on maintenance is cheaper and smarter than spending money on a new car!!!
This is so right, itís something Iíve been guilty of myself and I can feel myself changing to this mindset.

A few years ago i saw spy pics of the new models and was practically phoning my dealer with a deposit. Now I just think, yeah nice, and happily keep enjoying my own car. Not that Iíve had it long, but Iím going to make a point of keeping it and enjoy it.
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19k miles is nothing. Man up and own a car for more than 3 or 4 years. What happened to enthusiasts?! Car enthusiasts used to be real peeps who bought cars they loved and kept them for years...in the past few years I've seen the softening of these enthusiasts into becoming just consumers and materialists who barely even drive their cars and buy another.

Old school enthusiasts would giggle at current enthusiasts. Get to a 100k miles on a car and THEN you will know how to drive it...keep a car 10 years. Don't buy the hype. With every generation BMW M cars are getting WORSE to drive not better...so enjoy what you have. Spending money on maintenance is cheaper and smarter than spending money on a new car!!!
Gatekeeping much? Some people like to cycle through cars every few years. And why shouldn't they if they have the money to? Lol @ "With every generation BMW M cars are getting WORSE to drive not better." Yes technology over the years has definitely made the handling and power of the cars worse. Nurburgring times definitely show that

Also, I could go on to say "you're not a real BMW fan unless you own an M car or have done ED." See how ridiculous it sounds?
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I also had both and I respectfully disagree. The purported style of the GC doesn't justify the price and weight increase (power tailgate and such). Maybe if the G82 has smaller kidney grilles I'd consider it.
It's not just style - I'd pay more for the utility. The hatch makes it like a track worthy pickup truck.

I had an a5 sportback loaner a few weeks ago and it really is amazing how much space there is by there. My dog had a full panoramic romp room with the seats folded down he pretty much never wanted to leave.

I thought the car was bland and disconnected but that's a different story lol.
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Keep your current M and trade it in when the new M4GC arrives if that is what you really want.

I'm sure nothing extensive will happen to your current ride in the next couple years given it only has 19k on the odometer.
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What are the reasons / advantages of a M4GC over a M3?

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Aside from the more attractive lines (in my opinion, of course), the liftback makes the cargo space much easier to access, especially for large, boxy items that don't really fit through a comparatively narrow trunk opening. For instance, I bought two pedestals for my washer/dryer and I was able to fit both giant boxes in my Audi S5 Sportback. There's no way that would have worked with a standard trunk. I don't do it often, but having the ability to transport large items from time to time is really convenient without having to move to an SUV. Now that I've had one for a year, the liftback/sportback/GC is definitely my favorite body style and I wouldn't want to go back to a standard sedan.
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19k miles is nothing. Man up and own a car for more than 3 or 4 years. What happened to enthusiasts?! Car enthusiasts used to be real peeps who bought cars they loved and kept them for years...in the past few years I've seen the softening of these enthusiasts into becoming just consumers and materialists who barely even drive their cars and buy another.

Old school enthusiasts would giggle at current enthusiasts. Get to a 100k miles on a car and THEN you will know how to drive it...keep a car 10 years. Don't buy the hype. With every generation BMW M cars are getting WORSE to drive not better...so enjoy what you have. Spending money on maintenance is cheaper and smarter than spending money on a new car!!!
I could argue the complete opposite, enthusiast should want to drive MORE cars in their lifetime than just a few. years ago there weren't many options now there are endless ones (hell just look at how many choices there are for small SUVs with 400+ HP). Also as someone else said the technology is changing faster than ever, 5 years between cars is a big difference now, look at tech and performance numbers between generations (the new M340i xdrive will almost keep up with a G80 M3 on the street). Why be trapped to one car, you only live once
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19k miles is nothing. Man up and own a car for more than 3 or 4 years. What happened to enthusiasts?! Car enthusiasts used to be real peeps who bought cars they loved and kept them for years...in the past few years I've seen the softening of these enthusiasts into becoming just consumers and materialists who barely even drive their cars and buy another.

Old school enthusiasts would giggle at current enthusiasts. Get to a 100k miles on a car and THEN you will know how to drive it...keep a car 10 years. Don't buy the hype. With every generation BMW M cars are getting WORSE to drive not better...so enjoy what you have. Spending money on maintenance is cheaper and smarter than spending money on a new car!!!
I could argue the complete opposite, enthusiast should want to drive MORE cars in their lifetime than just a few. years ago there weren't many options now there are endless ones (hell just look at how many choices there are for small SUVs with 400+ HP). Also as someone else said the technology is changing faster than ever, 5 years between cars is a big difference now, look at tech and performance numbers between generations (the new M340i xdrive will almost keep up with a G80 M3 on the street). Why be trapped to one car, you only live once
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